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Why Republicans Will Lose 2012 and I got the ZOT
Conservative for Change ^ | June 2, 2011 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 06/02/2011 7:25:35 AM PDT by RogerFGay

You might expect that I will lead this article by pointing to the extraordinarily weak field of candidates currently led by Mitt Romney (code-name: Chameleon). OK, that's fair. I should and in fact I already have. But there's something else. The lamestream media has started its quadrennial preoccupation with the (so-called) “women's vote”. The social policy agenda, and indeed the fate of Constitutional rule, will once again rest in the hands of radical feminists. The RINOs can't handle it.

Early on, there will be much focus on the Obama agenda; the New World Order, “socializing” American industry, broader and more intensive cronyism. We'll certainly not believe candidates in the current field, who've taken credit for advancing all three during their careers. But even if another fresh, clean candidate should appear and gain in popularity, he or she will have to overcome the final barrier. A Republican candidate cannot win without winning quite solidly among men. And that's where every potential Republican nominee will be sabotaged by professional campaign advisers and party leaders.

Remember John McCain and the way he chased the skirts of “Hillary voters”? Sarah Palin said she'd do the same thing again if she had the chance. I believe she would; and then we'd find ourselves in the midst of the same spitting and snarling cat-fights as before, stuck month after month in the great competition over who's a better feminist. If there's any bright side at all, it might only be that there will be even less attention paid to MSNBC's racial slurs. But that won't save the Republicans.

The Party has a secret, and it's a doozy. When it came to the feminist vote, Ronald Reagan was farther left than Barack Obama. As Governor of California, he led the national charge to annul traditional marriage and family laws. He followed through as president, with the full support of NOW, under the Republican cover of child support and “welfare reform.” And the Party succeeded.

When Federal court challenges arose during the Clinton years, the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals formally put an end to traditional marriage and individual rights at the same time. In P.O.P.S. v. Gardner (1993), the Court reclassified marriage and family law from civil law to social policy. This effectively (legally) redefined both marriage and the relationship between the individual and government. A year later, the nation saw the Republican “Contract with America” (Newt Gingrich) that whole-heartedly supported the transition and not surprisingly attempted to replace the concept of Constitutional protection with political party promises.

“Welfare reform” led to both an enormous increase in welfare spending and an all-encompassing expansion of the reach of the welfare state. Think the federal government telling individuals how to spend their money is something started by Obamacare? It's not. The welfare reforms of the 1980s opened the door. Tens of millions of American men, who had nothing to do with welfare benefits, began to experience living without Constitutional rights, in a country where one's wealth and happiness are entirely at the mercy of political whim.

Do you think spying on innocent Americans and great government databases filled with personal information began with The Patriot Act? Think again. It was “welfare reform” that authorized the tens of billions of dollars to build and operate the national computer systems and all the information gathering mechanisms (such as access to bank records, mandatory employment reporting, etc.). They said they were keeping track of “deadbeat dads” or “illegal aliens” or …. anyway, they were compiling information and automatically tracking the activities of everyone with a Social Security card.

It's no wonder that RINOs like Mitt Romney (and Newt Gingrich, and …) love to drop Reagan's name. It was all done in the name of fiscal conservatism and spun with socially conservative brain-teasers like “government enforcement of personal responsibility”.

They called the increased spending “investment” that was supposed to reduce welfare dependency and spending in the long run. The spin was in fact the brain-child of a leftist social science professor, Irwin Garfinkel. Among other propaganda, Garfinkel produced a “study” that concluded that socialists have a higher standard of living because their income tends toward equality (i.e. the masses are better off being equally poor because they're less relatively poor) and participated in far-left academic-level New World Order groups.

Working at the Wisconsin Institute for Research on Poverty, Garfinkel convinced then Wisconsin Governor and later to be HHS Secretary under George W. Bush, Tommy Thompson to adapt his welfare reform concept. Thompson's far-left social policy agenda on child support and welfare reform was in the 1980s and 1990s worse than Romney's health-care socialism in Massachusetts. The welfare reform revolution went national without serious public scrutiny, legally ended traditional marriage, led to the downfall of Constitutional rule, and opened the door to the national undoing.

No, the Father's Rights Movement is not dead. The lamestream media stopped reporting when public opinion swayed to their side. You may not have noticed, but every Republican presidential candidate was quizzed about this issue in 2008 – and their responses posted on YouTube. They weren't good. Meanwhile, tens of millions of men - that's a lot of voters - who have suffered greatly from the reforms are waiting for a candidate to emerge who'll actually tell the truth and lead the country back to Constitutional rule and protection of their individual rights. It's not going to be done if no one is willing to acknowledge the root cause. And those men aren't going to vote Republican if the candidate can't or won't deal with it honorably.

And they won't. If they were, they wouldn't grasp defeat from the jaws of victory by pursuing "Hillary voters." And that's why Republicans will lose 2012.



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To: Admin Moderator

May I check first with the owner of the publication to see if it’s classified or operated as a “blog”? I’m an old guy, and maybe stuck on the original definition of “blog”, but maybe that’s changed. And I have to ask about “my material.” I also publish (similar or the same content) in publications that are most most definitely not blogs. Should I still post to the blog section because it’s my material?


81 posted on 06/02/2011 10:43:01 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

Yes, you are probably much more right than I would like to admit. Although, I don’t look at it in terms of political party loyalty. The way I see it is that anyone that has any measurable degree of awareness has a very simple choice, either support Liberty or Tyranny. To me that is the root level distinction. However, I sometimes to fail to recognize that the portion of the population that has “any measurable degree of awareness” is frighteningly small. That is the problem.


82 posted on 06/02/2011 11:05:32 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: zzeeman
The way I see it is that anyone that has any measurable degree of awareness has a very simple choice, either support Liberty or Tyranny.

Well, one can easily enough see that as the most important choice. It's certainly a priority for me. But how to do that is where it gets complicated. Republicans Doubtful About 2012: What to do? What to do?
83 posted on 06/02/2011 11:21:13 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
What to do? What to do?

Actually, I don't think that is the real question to answer. The answer to that question is rather straight-forward and simple: Nominate a true Constitutional Conservative. The real question is how to do that?

(It doesn't seem that the Republican party has any real interest in doing that, and the way the primaries are setup will continue to make it difficult for the citizenry to make it happen.)

Is there a candidate out there that can overcome this disadvantaged position?

84 posted on 06/02/2011 12:09:24 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: RogerFGay; 50mm; Lady Jag; Old Sarge; darkwing104; Darksheare; TheOldLady; Allegra; Outlaw Woman; ..
1998 account goes up in flames.


85 posted on 06/02/2011 12:38:06 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back.)
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To: RogerFGay
While polls are showing him with support equal to the "generic Republican!? Don't see what could possibly amaze you - except maybe finding out that it matters who the Republican nominee is.

The polls also show that the public disapproves his handling of the economy by over 60% and well as almost every major issue. The Dems will try to make the election about the Rep nominee and what The One inherited fom Bush. The reality is that it will be about Obama and whether we want him in charge for four more years. I would say he has a steep mountain to climb.

86 posted on 06/02/2011 12:43:02 PM PDT by kabar
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To: RogerFGay; Arrowhead1952; TheOldLady
Just what I stated in the article. In 2008 (which was the last presidential election, not 2010) it was all about the elusive "Hillary voters." Here we go again.

Ooooh, cool! You're one of those guys who knows everything.

I've met a few of those.

I'm always awed. :-P

87 posted on 06/02/2011 2:04:41 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: RogerFGay; Arrowhead1952; darkwing104; 50mm; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; paulycy; humblegunner; ..
H/T Arrowhead1952

1998 account goes down in flames

ZOT

88 posted on 06/02/2011 2:54:36 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Large kill zone today! Must be a boring summer for trolls!


89 posted on 06/02/2011 3:27:15 PM PDT by luvie (RUN SARAH...R U N!)
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To: LUV W

They’re coming out of the woodwork to save their messiah in the 2012 election.


90 posted on 06/02/2011 3:46:03 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: RogerFGay

Obama’s victory was predictable because John McCain on the stump assured voters Obama wouldn’t be so bad, he was basically conceding the election weeks in advance. It was all over when he supported the bailouts.


91 posted on 06/02/2011 4:17:06 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: TheOldLady; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

I guess this is a bad time for me to say that I’m voting for Obama in 2012. /s


92 posted on 06/02/2011 5:50:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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Posts by RogerFGay.
93 posted on 06/02/2011 5:56:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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94 posted on 06/02/2011 5:56:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv

95 posted on 06/02/2011 6:03:52 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady; SunkenCiv

Nooooooo! Where would I get my daily astronomy picture?

Say it ain’t so, Civ!

By the way, that zot takes on the appearance of bullet holes. Swiss Cheese Style Points awarded.


96 posted on 06/02/2011 7:47:04 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: Colonel_Flagg; SunkenCiv

I guess I was a little quick on the trigger, but he said he was going to vote for zer0 in 2012.

What could I do, really? I mean...!! Really?


97 posted on 06/02/2011 7:51:30 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

I am SO going to miss the worst misogynist on FR.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!


98 posted on 06/02/2011 7:54:15 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("If you mess with Israel, you mess with the U.S." -Herman Cain)
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To: Politicalmom

Goodness gracious! You poor thing.

I assume you’re going to miss Mr. Gay because you won’t have him to kick around anymore? LOL!


99 posted on 06/02/2011 8:04:24 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: SunkenCiv

I like CCC and agree with his message, if not his tone.


100 posted on 06/02/2011 10:29:01 PM PDT by rmlew (No Blood for Sarkozy's re-election and Union for the Mediterranean)
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