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To: Elendur
There are, in fact, quite a few birther/freepers who claim that the “layers” are proof the document has been forged.

This simply offers an explanation of how a scan turns into a PDF.

But believers believe.

18 posted on 05/28/2011 9:50:30 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

There are, in fact, quite a few birther/freepers who claim that the “layers” are proof the document has been forged.
This simply offers an explanation of how a scan turns into a PDF.
/// thank you Sir. again, i agree with 99% of what you wrote. and some people believe that “face” is evidence. i don’t. i think the face is simply a graphics artifact, an optical illusion, like the face on the moon.
...and, removing false claims, is important. there only needs to be ONE single clear item, to prove the document is a fraud. which is why i ignore things that are ambiguous like layers, or not clear, like the smiley face.
and we know there are Obama trolls here. (and i am NOT saying you are one!) but some of the people pushing already debunked items, i think are trolls passing misinformation, in an attempt to muddy the waters.
...i thank you, for helping to remove items, that don’t prove anything.


20 posted on 05/28/2011 10:09:15 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

I have scanned many documents as PDF’s and have never had anything like this happen.

Furthermore, I have taken and posted on my blog photos of my daughter’s death certificate and could take any more that anybody required in order to believe that it is a real document with a real seal. I am as unsophisticated and computer-unsavvy as a person can be and even dumb ol’ me was able to do that much. Why are these smart, sophisticated, highly-motivated, highly-paid lawyer-types unable to do that? This is not rocket science.

At any point then or now they could do what I did and the whole problem with a PDF could be eliminated.

They wouldn’t even let anybody at that gaggle examine the paper copy in person. They had it right there; why not even let anybody see it, for heaven’s sake?

Even the supposed “copy” they made of the long-form was not taken from the actual certified paper copy; it was taken from paper that wasn’t security paper, since print on a page below it bled onto the copy during scanning - which introduces a step in the process where manipulation could be done. IOW, EVERYTHING THEY SHOWED was specifically created in a context that allowed manipulation.


28 posted on 05/28/2011 10:51:00 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

The ‘layers’ do not prove the document is fake, but the layers themselves are intersting.

The fact that they are there at all is odd (in the first place) and none of this convoulted “OCR” or pdf explanations can take that away.

There is NO REASON for this to have layers. If it was a scan of one page.

The layers themselves contain all the proof that it is a fake. They COULD NOT HAVE COME FROM ONE SCAN of an image.

The pixel alignment and color-vs- greyscale are the smoking guns.

To put this another way- if this was an actual scan, then it should be relatively easyt to reproduce the same way. SCAN IT AND TRY IT YOURSELF. I guarantte wou will never produce anything like this.

The forger blew it for Obaba by not reducing the layers to one image. If not for that, all of these things would have been speculation.

THIS DOCUMENT IS MANUFACTURED- not scanned


75 posted on 05/28/2011 3:39:05 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Tex-Con-Man

The ‘layers’ do not prove the document is fake, but the layers themselves are intersting.

The fact that they are there at all is odd (in the first place) and none of this convoulted “OCR” or pdf explanations can take that away.

There is NO REASON for this to have layers. If it was a scan of one page.

The layers themselves contain all the proof that it is a fake. They COULD NOT HAVE COME FROM ONE SCAN of an image.

The pixel alignment and color-vs- greyscale are the smoking guns.

To put this another way- if this was an actual scan, then it should be relatively easyt to reproduce the same way. SCAN IT AND TRY IT YOURSELF. I guarantte wou will never produce anything like this.

The forger blew it for Obaba by not reducing the layers to one image. If not for that, all of these things would have been speculation.

THIS DOCUMENT IS MANUFACTURED- not scanned


76 posted on 05/28/2011 3:39:05 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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