he said it convinced the rubes. there are a lot of smart people here, who aren’t convinced. it is very clear he’s gone to great effort to hide something. even if it as simply as he was adopted by Soetoro, and never legally changed his name back. And NO ONE has shown why he has a Connecticut SSN.
and “Defeating Obama on the issues instead?” Why can’t we do both? As Fantasywriter pointed out, he has violated other laws. should we ignore that also, just to discuss issues? It doesn’t matter if the War Powers Act is violated?
And i don’t see even “birthers” here ignoring the issues. They are smart people, and know their stuff on Obamacare, unemployment, TARP, and many other issues.
And if you would post some threads, about the key issues, and suggest how we can best frame the discussions, and get the message out, to defeat them, i would be happy to read them !
The rubes are the majority of the voting public. If your strategic goal is winning elections, you need tactics that match.
While *you* personally can walk and chew gum, as the Birther saying goes, that doesn’t fly in America. For instance, Ron Paul can walk and chew gum with his views on the Fed and his views on foreign policy. Once you get into what most people consider ‘kooky’, then your other, better ideas are tainted and discredited.
As far as the War Powers Act, there’s no outcry because most people in this country don’t understand why the Constitution was written the way it was, and they don’t care. Appealing to Constitutional purity is wasted breath; most Americans don’t care. If you want to win elections, you’re going to have to look at the battlefield for what it is, and play the game by the current rules.
What you guys aren’t grasping is that you live in a country where Obama can show up with a crayon birth certificate, a 5 digit social security number, and Martian antennae growing out of his head, and he’ll still be reelected if we can’t persuade enough people to vote for someone else based on the issues of the day.
The Constitution isn’t a magic scroll; it’s an idea. Obama’s not banished back to the netherworld if you cast the right spell from Article II to break the curse of the Non-Natural Born Citizen.
Thus, the only thing that matters now is to beat Obama using ideas that the mainstream of America finds palatable. Obama is very vulnerable there. He’s not vulnerable on the NBC angle. Pursuing it further makes us all look like fringe theorists, and damages our chances to win elections.
If your goal is not to win elections, but to be right, then to sit around in terror when you realize that too few Americans care about the Constitution to remove someone who openly violates it, then be my guest.
Absolutely correct.
Enough to win an election?
Absolutely incorrect.
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