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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Every so often someone posts something from a Latin source which demonstrates why some say there is a chasm between the theology and praxis of the West and that that of the East which may well be unbridgeable. The Horvat article you have quoted is one of those.

We live in a fallen world, Doc; a world so distorted by the sins of mankind that it bears little resemblance to that perfect one which God created. It is the weight of man’s sins which causes natural disasters not the punishments of God. By death, Christ destroyed Death and because of that we can fulfill our created purpose and that in turn, my friend, will restore, in however limited a fashion and area, the world to its original state, where the lion does lie down with the lamb.

My youngest son, who is 28, has Down Syndrome. When he was born, I thought we had been cursed and I implored Panagia to tell me why. I was a fool. Thank God I got over that fear, because that’s what it was, within a few days. He was and is the greatest blessing I and my family and the small “ecclesia” around us have ever been given. He was born with Down Syndrome for the same reason that the blind man cured by Christ was born blind, so that the love of God might be made manifest in the world.

God won’t punish France and the French for this. They will do it to themselves.


17 posted on 05/22/2011 2:31:44 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Quix
It is the weight of man’s sins which causes natural disasters not the punishments of God.

I do not disagree with this, though it is somewhat a matter of semantics.

I truly believe that a Godly people is protected from the natural disasters inherent in our fallen world by God's Mercy. As long as we abandon ourselves to His Providence, pray, and try to live moral faithful lives, He does provide.

When for all intents and purposes, we live as if God does not exist, and act as if we have to provide for ourselves and God's laws do not matter, we have stopped trusting in Him, and He respects our decision not to Trust and believe, and lets us to our own devices.

Human ingenuity might be able to increase crop yields short term, and provide some amazing technology, and deliver some advances in medicine and other sciences. But our puny intellect and advances cannot protect us from the cataclysmic events inherent to our fallen world and fallen nature.

I truly believe it is the weight of man’s sins which causes natural disasters, not the punishments of God per se. These disasters come from God's permissive will, not His active will.

When man ceases to believe in God's providence, he begins to believe he has to provide for himself. When a state is atheistic in practice, even if not literally, that state believes it must provide for its subjects, not God. Such a state, lacking grace, quickly descends to seeing mouths to feed as an insuperable burden, and eventually, gets around to eliminating mouths to feed.

Such a state eventually becomes atheistic not only in practice but also belief.

And because atheism itself is a lie and a deception, a mere mask for the demonic (even if its adherents deny the existence of such), any truly "atheistic" state eventually devolves to demonic fury against its subjects, especially the innocent. The demonic despises the innocent, because in the face of the innocent is reflected the image of God, which the demonic hates most. Thus "atheistic" states will always descend to the demonic destruction of the innocent. (That ultimately is what the Georgia Guidestones and The Population Control Agenda in general is about.)

The Down's child is truly the face of innocence. Thus the world seeks to destroy it.

21 posted on 05/22/2011 3:13:08 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ("Sola Ecclesia")
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To: Kolokotronis
God won’t punish France and the French for this. They will do it to themselves.

That is a most wonderful insight!

Regards,
GtG

24 posted on 05/22/2011 3:56:01 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Kolokotronis

“My youngest son, who is 28, has Down Syndrome. When he was born, I thought we had been cursed and I implored Panagia to tell me why. I was a fool. Thank God I got over that fear, because that’s what it was, within a few days. He was and is the greatest blessing I and my family and the small “ecclesia” around us have ever been given. He was born with Down Syndrome for the same reason that the blind man cured by Christ was born blind, so that the love of God might be made manifest in the world.”

Thank you for sharing your experience. What a beautiful tribute to your son and what a testament of your faith.


28 posted on 05/22/2011 4:15:39 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Kolokotronis

Thanks for this, Kolo. It shows a beauty in God’s heart-— and yours.


31 posted on 05/22/2011 4:53:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed be God in His angels and in His saints.)
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