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To: Kolokotronis; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Quix
It is the weight of man’s sins which causes natural disasters not the punishments of God.

I do not disagree with this, though it is somewhat a matter of semantics.

I truly believe that a Godly people is protected from the natural disasters inherent in our fallen world by God's Mercy. As long as we abandon ourselves to His Providence, pray, and try to live moral faithful lives, He does provide.

When for all intents and purposes, we live as if God does not exist, and act as if we have to provide for ourselves and God's laws do not matter, we have stopped trusting in Him, and He respects our decision not to Trust and believe, and lets us to our own devices.

Human ingenuity might be able to increase crop yields short term, and provide some amazing technology, and deliver some advances in medicine and other sciences. But our puny intellect and advances cannot protect us from the cataclysmic events inherent to our fallen world and fallen nature.

I truly believe it is the weight of man’s sins which causes natural disasters, not the punishments of God per se. These disasters come from God's permissive will, not His active will.

When man ceases to believe in God's providence, he begins to believe he has to provide for himself. When a state is atheistic in practice, even if not literally, that state believes it must provide for its subjects, not God. Such a state, lacking grace, quickly descends to seeing mouths to feed as an insuperable burden, and eventually, gets around to eliminating mouths to feed.

Such a state eventually becomes atheistic not only in practice but also belief.

And because atheism itself is a lie and a deception, a mere mask for the demonic (even if its adherents deny the existence of such), any truly "atheistic" state eventually devolves to demonic fury against its subjects, especially the innocent. The demonic despises the innocent, because in the face of the innocent is reflected the image of God, which the demonic hates most. Thus "atheistic" states will always descend to the demonic destruction of the innocent. (That ultimately is what the Georgia Guidestones and The Population Control Agenda in general is about.)

The Down's child is truly the face of innocence. Thus the world seeks to destroy it.

21 posted on 05/22/2011 3:13:08 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ("Sola Ecclesia")
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; Kolokotronis; Quix
Here are Fr. Cantalamessa's words:

Dobbiamo però raccogliere anche l’insegnamento che c’è in eventi come questo. Terremoti, uragani e altre sciagure che colpiscono insieme colpevoli e innocenti non sono mai un castigo di Dio. Dire il contrario, significa offendere Dio e gli uomini. Sono però un ammonimento: in questo caso, l’ammonimento a non illuderci che basteranno la scienza e la tecnica a salvarci. Se non sapremo imporci dei limiti, possono diventare proprio esse, lo stiamo vedendo, la minaccia più grave di tutte.

Said differently, if the calamity befalls the innocent along with the guilty, is it truly Divine retribution, or rather an admonition to repent? Consistent with the basis of this thread, the homilist implies we are most foolish if we look to science and technology to save us. Far from its proper moorings, and ever more likely when sci/tech is glorified rather than the One True God -- witness the mandatory testing and the attendant pressure to kill the innocent referenced in the OP -- sci/tech left to its own devices will be a law unto itself and lead to destruction.

22 posted on 05/22/2011 3:33:46 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; aposiopetic

Important points, imho.

Thx.


23 posted on 05/22/2011 3:48:39 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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