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The beatings will continue (birthers)
RenewAmerica ^ | May 18, 2011 | Cindy Simpson

Posted on 05/20/2011 11:05:31 AM PDT by STE=Q

Obama finally produced a long-form birth certificate, and as predicted, the media is using a rolled-up copy "to further beat the sizeable percentage of the population with [eligibility] doubts into either embarrassed or apologetic submission." The most popular birther-bashing method: charges of "racism."

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To: Beckwith
The Obots are out in force today.

It must be weekend passes for everyone at the asylum.

41 posted on 05/20/2011 1:29:28 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

Yes. The text is plainly curved as an original would be. Maybe you just need a trained/experienced eye; I think it’s obvious. I don’t see how he thinks it’s “straight” except that being curved would conflict with his devotion to finding boogeymen where they don’t exist. Every pixel makes sense unless you don’t understand what’s going on, at which point screaming “FAKE!” just belies ignorance.


42 posted on 05/20/2011 1:30:06 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Beckwith

“You want some?”

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Can’t make a sane argument, so you’re threatening violence? Oh, you funny.

And yes, the text is curved, and the characters skewed accordingly with page bending, the variations consistent with normal typewriter inaccuracies (have you ever used one? do you realize how sloppy those things are?), and I can in fact spell “rebuttal”.


43 posted on 05/20/2011 1:36:45 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: FewsOrange; Mr. K

You are correct. The official story is Obama’s legal counsel retrieved two certified copies, allegedly photocopied from the actual archived document.

Even if that all is true, from there things get bewildering.
Primarily, WTF happened to the version published on the WH site for public consumption.

Yeah, odd crap happens sometimes when prepping PDFs. But we have here amounts to the Magic Bullet squared.


44 posted on 05/20/2011 1:37:59 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: All

I don’t know if the latest installment of a “birth certificate” from the Obama administration, is legit, or not, as I am not an expert on these things, and know close to nothing about Photo-Shop .

What I do NOW understand is what EVERY con artist, worth his salt, knows either intellectually, or intuitively, about the mind of the average “decent” person… they will believe “The Big Lie” before they will believe the small one:

“All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]

STE=Q


45 posted on 05/20/2011 1:58:39 PM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Understood - Obama, by his own admission, is the first person to serve as US President since William Henry Harrison (with the possible exception of Chester Alan Arthur) to be a British subject at birth.

But unfortunately if the matter were so clear it should have been brought up before the election. Looking back, it's astonishing that more was not said, at least by people like Mark Levin.

I have strong doubts, to say the least, about Obama’s biography - his place of birth and/or the identity of his father, especially.

And the media outlets have been slavish in their bias - even Kim Jong-Il must be envious of such a compliant press!

But we have a document presented by the White House as a state record, and the state is not making any statements that it is a fraud.

And it's possible that whatever happened in 1961 was covered up or changed at the time, so that the birth records would indeed be in order.

I respect people who want to investigate further - again, if this were Bush and a parking ticket from when he was 17 the media would have been all over this.

Absent some dramatic development I do not believe this issue will result in any further disclosures. I would love to be wrong.

I am not focusing my energies in this area, but I appreciate the people who do. I am working to educate people about the policies at stake in the next election. I believe in each case, people are doing the right thing to get America back on track. I hate top see such vicious fighting going on here, because others can read it.

Just my opinion, which no one asked for. Thanks for any responses or flames in advance. :)

46 posted on 05/20/2011 2:06:14 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: FewsOrange
No, he sent a lawyer to Hawaii to collect the paper copy produced by the State of Hawaii and then scanned that paper copy to produce the pdf to post on the White House website. A PDF that was simply scanned would not have generated all the layers in the PDF they posted to the WH web site.

The following video lays it all out very nicely:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLW5yAxBwDg&feature=player_embedded

47 posted on 05/20/2011 2:06:40 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: cvq3842; Emperor Palpatine

top = to


48 posted on 05/20/2011 2:09:32 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: The Duke
A PDF that was simply scanned would not have generated all the layers in the PDF they posted to the WH web site.

Wrong.

PDF Layers in Obama’s Birth Certificate (National Review)
49 posted on 05/20/2011 2:13:27 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: The Duke; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; Hotlanta Mike; Arthur Wildfire! March

i am not a techie... i don’t understand adobe, or layers,
so i make no claims there, either way.

but, i do have several things i am honestly curious about.
the photocopy curve mentioned above, is legitimate and expected. but, why do some words seem to curve less than others?
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=186343

how can signatures be in different resolutions on the same document, unless one of them was pasted on? ml/nj has it here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2720608/posts?page=23#23

and boxes that are identical down to the pixel? :
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/irrefutable-proof-obamas-new-birth.html

why do other documents show the security paper background as they are supposed to, but this one LFBC doesn’t?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2722377/posts?page=259#259

why does Hawaii list a birth for Virginia Sunahara in their index, and then claim they have no record of her?
http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/hdoh-funny-business-regarding-virginia-sunahara/

...but all that, is still secondary to my biggest question:

WHY does he have a Connecticut SSN ?


50 posted on 05/20/2011 2:37:16 PM PDT by Elendur
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To: allmendream
Palin said it was “a distraction”. She was correct.

She said to the media! So what's your point?

"Now, don't let the WH distract you w/the birth crt from what Bernanke says today. Stay focused, eh?" Palin, the former Republican vice presidential nominee, said in a Twitter message Wednesday, April 27, 2011 addressed to the news media.
51 posted on 05/20/2011 2:48:06 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: FewsOrange
The layers in the PDF are perfectly explainable.

Are you a graphics expert?
52 posted on 05/20/2011 2:50:09 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: ctdonath2

and you can’t even read or do simple math.


53 posted on 05/20/2011 2:56:02 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

She said more than just that. She also said it while speaking in New York.

My point is that PALIN WAS CORRECT.

BIRTHERS WERE WRONG.

YOU NEED TO EAT CROW.

is that simple enough for you?


54 posted on 05/20/2011 2:58:10 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: FewsOrange
Wrong.

Please share with us, both yours and the writer's qualifications on the subject.
55 posted on 05/20/2011 3:02:03 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: allmendream

I am not eating any crow. Obama may have been born in Hawaii after all, but that doesn’t mean it was wrong to question him. I am keeping The Birther Think Tank open and I am going to keep questioning WHY it took the rascal three years to cough up a long form. Plus now, I am writing about The Lies the Obotski Taught Us over the last three years. I have not yet begun to write!!!


56 posted on 05/20/2011 3:05:01 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Squeeky
Why did it take three years to cough up the long form?

Why did Hannibal wait until the Roman army was in position before he sprung his trap?

You have to ask why?

Really?

This really couldn't have worked out better for 0bama other than one thing.... he would have rather caught bigger fish than just Trump - and a lot closer to the election.

57 posted on 05/20/2011 3:09:19 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

You certainly are continuing to show your ignorance. You are now making contradictory statements.

btw, I have no obsession with eating crow, like yourself. If you enjoy it, then eat it, but we here don’t really care about what you like to eat. Anyone that writes about “eating crow” in almost every post that they make certainly has some sort of mental prolem.


58 posted on 05/20/2011 3:11:44 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: The Duke

A well done video! Don’t know how old the speaker is, but the instructional portion is well done.


59 posted on 05/20/2011 3:11:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: allmendream

It’s a fake and everyone knows it. It was only a matter of time before he had to come up with one. Why did he wait so long if he had nothing to hide? Why won’t he produce his college records or anything else relating to his past? People that hide things have something to hide.


60 posted on 05/20/2011 3:13:45 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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