Posted on 05/07/2011 4:24:11 PM PDT by kingattax
Gutsy? Please. A White House insider offers a peek behind the scenes regarding the no-brainer decision to take out bin Laden:
President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president. [T]here had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper.
The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama.
Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in [getting Obama to take] a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again.
(Excerpt) Read more at moonbattery.com ...
6-months later, and you still don't get it. Not surprised.
Yeah I’m still waiting for the big scandal to break, Ulstermann.
Given the phrasing of the title, it would be a tough choice.
Given the phrasing of the title, it would be a tough choice.
Thanks it’s a gem.
I know what WTF means but am curious why I rated one?
i is a kentucky kernel
Yes, but very much appreciated.
Uh, the Director of the CIA never operates militarily? Righteeyo boss... lessee, there was this war in Vietnam? And this program called Phoenix? And before and since then... let me count the ways... LOL...
CIA Takes On Major New Military Role - 'I Mean Killing People...'
But hey, don't let me slow you down - the show is great!
If the kid at Starbucks voiced opposition to a plan it would make Barry uncertain. I have no doubt that at some Point Panetta, Clinton and Gates said “eff it” and ordered the raid. They probably waited until Barry was conveniently out on the golf course to do it.
can the media, and everyone, stop using the word gutsy?
Thats what I heard. After waiting 16 hours for a reply from O, he went with it. Ima think that after it was a success O took credit. If it went bad it would have been Penetta’s babey
Thats what I heard. After waiting 16 hours for a reply from O, he went with it. Ima think that after it was a success O took credit. If it went bad it would have been Penetta’s babey
No, he sent Obama to take out an order of burger and fries.
No, they don't. They operate para-militarily. They do have their own special operations division, but those men are not members of the US armed forces. They work for CIA and CIA alone. Mike Spann, the first American to die in combat in Afghanistan after 9/11 was just such a CIA operator. While he was former US special forces officer, as virtually all operators are, he was no longer in uniform service.
"Righteeyo boss... lessee, there was this war in Vietnam? And this program called Phoenix? And before and since then... let me count the ways... LOL... "
Right, and after that strange bout of nervous laughter, you might want to educate yourself before someone takes you for a moron. I didn't get a chance to go to one of them fancy public schools, but I'm pretty sure the Vietnam Conflict and operation Phoenix came after 1986. Why is 1986 important? Well, 1986 is the year Congress passed and Reagan signed the Goldwater-Nichols Act.
'But hey, don't let me slow you down - the show is great!"
The only that was put on in this exchange was from you - it was an unequivocally showing that you don't know what you're talking about. Just saying. Leon Panetta is not part of the military chain of command, by design of federal law. He cannot, by law, issue orders to anyone in a unified combatant commands, like the US Navy Seals, who are all part of (for this particular mission) JSOC, and are normally part of NSWC which, like JSOC, is an element of USSOCOM.
Did Hillary start the rumor that Panetta sent the order rather than Obama?
“In the US, military officers only take orders from one civilian - that’s the SecDef, and SecDef only takes orders from CIC. It’s not policy, it’s federal law.”
What if they know CIC is illegal? What then?
I think it flies over the heads of many when the media reports that the operational control of the SEALS was given over to CIA. Which is actually not accurate.
That oversimplified what actually happened. In truth, Panetta couldn’t have given the order without first negotiating the “on order” part of the Op Order. Panetta was nothing more than a trigger that caused SOCCOM to release the execute order, and CENTCOM to release the execute order for all other supporting units.
The media still believes this was a 40-man SEAL mission. Yeah. Right.
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