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To: supercat

So you’re saying that at best what Obama released is worthless. Am I understanding correctly?

I would add that without a raised seal on the piece of paper, ANYTHING he would offer is legally worthless.

The Factcheck people at least had the sense to know that they had to show that there was a real live 3D document with a real live 3D seal on it. They did a really bad job of proving that but they at least understood that was what needed to happen.

Obama should have produced a bunch of photos, maybe even video, because the thing that gives the paper any legal value at all is the raised seal.


48 posted on 05/05/2011 10:38:42 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion
I think it was an interesting political strategy for Obama to release bogus electronic facsimiles of this “Certificate”, and then as the inconsistencies begin to be pointed out... they pull this Osama thing out of the hat. They have known where Osama was for the past several months at least, possibly much longer than that. We know for certain that this place was under intense surveillance for months now. It no doubt was an intelligence goldmine, the equivalent of us cracking the Japanese and German codes in WWII. Killing Osama no matter how satisfying has thrown away a very important resource. If it was for political grandstanding as I suspect... it borders on criminal negligence.

The fly in the ointment here is that their Osama stories are actually getting a little scrutiny from the international press, hence the constantly changing official story line. Hopefully, when the lies and exaggerations told about the Osama raids will result in people being a little more skeptical about the stories coming from Obama about everything else. Maybe it will even result in a few more reporters and resources being directed at his birth narrative.

51 posted on 05/05/2011 11:48:05 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: butterdezillion

If this passes I wonder what Obama will send to Missouri?

Mo. House backs new primary date, birth certificate requirement for presidential candidates

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/197fb1f7ae164d87acbd6fcfba563565/MO—Presidential-Primary/

The Missouri House has approved legislation to change the state’s presidential primary date and require presidential candidates to produce copies of their birth certificate.

The bill moves the presidential primary from February to March. An earlier Senate version of the legislation had put Missouri’s primary date one week after the New Hampshire primaries.

The measure would also require presidential candidates to submit birth certificates to the Missouri Secretary of State to prove that they’re natural-born U.S. citizens.

House Republican Lyle Rowland, of Cedar Creek, said Missouri must verify that presidential candidates comply with the U.S. Constitution.

The legislation now returns to the Senate for consideration of the changes made by the House.


53 posted on 05/06/2011 12:17:34 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: butterdezillion
So you’re saying that at best what Obama released is worthless. Am I understanding correctly?

The State of Hawaii has gone on record as saying they've released the birth certificate, and that what Obama has shown is an accurate representation of it. I don't think Obama had gone on the record as claiming responsibility for any particular released picture of the Certification, nor to I recall the State of Hawaii officially acknowledging the existence or authenticity of such pictures. It is entirely plausible that they would stay mum if some anonymous person released pictures of documents falsely claiming to be Hawaii certifications. On the other hand, it is less plausible that they would stay mum if, after they publicly acknowledged giving a certificate to BHO, BHO published a certificate which differed from the one on file.

I think it is reasonable to believe that the scan Barack Obama presented is an accurate representation of the birth record on file, and I see no reason to doubt it. As to the circumstances under which the record came to be in the file, it will probably never be possible to say with absolute certainty, but at this point my belief is that BHO has something in his background he doesn't want investigated, and his refusal to supply his birth certificate was intended to be a distraction from his real disqualifications.

93 posted on 05/07/2011 12:49:30 AM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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