Posted on 05/05/2011 8:16:22 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
I am not a “Newtie” at this early stage, but candidates better be braced with more than a tutor on every matter of state. Just sayin’.
I guess if you’re living in Outer Space...your view of Sarah would be somewhat skewed...try coming back to earth.
Let's say argumentum that she was the most successful 29-month governor in the history of governors. Do you think mildly curious independents and downright disengaged moderate Republicans and Democrats - the people who actually elect presidents in this country - are going to give her record the careful examination that you believe it deserves, or do you think that they'll just see a lady who quit her day job to host a reality show and write a couple books?
The optics of how this will be portrayed are clear to anyone with just a passing interest in politics. The opposition's campaign commercials will write themselves, and they'll be devastating.
58% of the country didn't say they'll never vote for her for no reason - her quitting was one of the reasons, and her success as governor, however great it may have been, will be lost in the political narrative.
That's her political reality.
That is a lie, and you have PDS. She has years of successful government executive experience. You already knew that, but want to bitch about Palin anyway.
Capisce, douche-bag?
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You are clearly to ignorant to even involve yourself in political discussions, you need to study and start paying attention.
Right, so popular that Alaskans think this about her now...
Just 41% in Alaska Would Vote for Palin for President
Any other fantasies you'd like to share?
2012 election will be about the inter-related connectiveness of the following:
ENERGY
ECONOMY
NATONAL SECURITY
FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY
AMERICA EXCEPTIONALISM
ONLY Sarah has the insight into all OF these and how they are ALL RELATED.
Ah... a primer on "reality" from the numbskull who stated yesterday that anyone who feels that Sarah Palin influenced the GOP Revolution of 2010 is "delusional."
Your own ignorance precludes you having anything meaningful to say about anyone's "reality," much less one of your betters. When you have acheived in your entire lifetime what Palin did in half a term as Governor, before falling on her sabre for the good of her constituents, then maybe, just maybe, you'll have earned a seat at that table.
Until then you're just another sour-grapes, bigmouthed, woman hating tinkerbell.
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Is exactly what I would expect someone like you to say - short on substance, long on personal insult.
Her approval ratings as Governor are no fantasy, you cannot sell that lie.
“Sure, Reagan was an actor. Of course, he didn’t work as an actor for roughly 15-years before he became president. And, what did he do in those intervening 15-years? Well (as he would say), he only ran the most populated state in the union, a state that at the time was the 4th largest economy on the planet.”
>>>>Ok, so now it’s ok to be on T.V. to be President, BUT you can’t have done it within 15 years of running for President? Is that your time table? And funny, Reagan was an ACTOR. Palin is anything BUT.... what she did on her AK program amounted to no more than a documentary. Last I checked documentaries are educational. And you may know all there is to know about Alaska, but as a former Geography teacher, I can tell you that I learned several things! And my kid did too.... when she left office, she promised to promote Alaska and she did. I’m sorry for you that THAT happens to fall during the age of computers and television and stuff, but if you’re going to promote a state and do a decent job, T.V. is a great medium!!
And are you saying that people from smaller states shouldn’t be allowed to become President? I mean it would be very difficult for someone from a small state to become Gov. of a large state..... I guess I’m just not understanding what your REAL problem is w/her... ok, she was governor, but you’re not happy about that b/c the state was small. (you might wanna check out what all her duties included that most states don’t have to deal with)... And I was always taught it doesn’t matter how important you are or how small your job is, you should excel at the one you have. Has she not excelled when she governed? From local on up to state.... Is it really that difficult to look at her record there and say: “yea, I’d like to see that nation wide”.... who IS your choice by the way???
And you sound like Rove talking about her lack of “gravitas”... I personally think “cojones” is much more important in this day that “gravitas”..... and “cojones”..well, she’s got ‘em <<<<<< rant complete.
Who's selling a lie? Whatever her approval ratings were at one time, it's pretty clear that those ratings fell precipitously during her failed VP bid, and then fell even more after she quit. The fact of the matter is the longer she was in the job, the worse her approval rating became, which really isn't all that uncommon with any politician. But, you don't describe a politicians tenure in office by the results of a single poll, especially a poll taken in early in the politician's tenure. Things change.
Barack Obama at one time enjoyed near 70% approval - is it then accurate to say that Obama enjoyed one of the highest approval ratings in history? Of course it's not. George HW Bush had a 92% approval rating at one time. Was George HW Bush the most popular president in history? Yeah, I don't think so either.
They mean nothing at this juncture. Zero, zilch, nada.
Polling will begin to matter in each state as they get close to a primary and that's it.
“But if she can’t get her negatives down beyond her somewhat shrinking Republican base it’s a big sweat for nothing. Newt in a debate will shrink the field in knowledge, reason, political experience and Independents will be all ears. You know, the ones who will elect the next prez.”
Wait, if she loses the base, but gets independents (outside that base as you said), then it’s a big sweat for nothing. But, Newt, who WILL NEVER CARRY THE BASE (really, get real), but may can sweet talk independents, has a chance. That logic makes not sense. You contradicted yourself. Unless you misspoke..... or unless you think Newt can carry the base and in that case....BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
My "problem" (as you describe it) isn't a problem, but an acknowledgement of political reality. Her political reality is that a large, overwhelming majority of the American electorate believes that she's a moron. That's her political reality, and she has demonstrated absolutely no ability, while working as a sitting governor, or after she left office, to be able to manage her own political identity.
Politics in America is about perception, nothing more. You're going out of your way to convince about Sarah Palin's competency or something. Don't. It's a waste of time because what I think of Palin, or what you think of Palin is wholly irrelevant. All that matters is what the American electorate thinks of Sarah Palin - and from ALL indicators of public opinion, it's clear that the public doesn't think much.
Until Sarah Palin can demonstrate some ability to change her own political narrative, there is NO WAY I could begin to think about supporting her for any elected office, much less president. The power of the presidency is a power almost exclusively of persuasion - if you can't persuade people - like Bush couldn't, but Reagan could - you're feckless and unproductive. Sarah Palin, in this regard, would be as bad or perhaps even worse than George W Bush, and Palin candidacy, beyond being hopeless itself, would have significant damage on down-ticket Republican candidates. Again, that's just her political reality.
58% huh, and you truly believe this? You are just the kind of fool they are looking for when they post their weighted polls. For the record, no one ever called and polled me or anyone I know.
You’ve managed to hijack the thread and make it about you. Hopefully that will make you a happy camper now.
I predicted to a friend last night that Sarah will receive a huge, maybe unstoppable surge after she announces. All I know is that I’d be totally satisfied and thrilled with her as the GOP nominee. Bob
When Sarah Palin can't get more than 41% to support her in her own home state, do I think that 58% disapproval nationally is believable? Yeah, sure I do.
"You’ve managed to hijack the thread and make it about you. "
I see. So when people post flattering things about Sarah Palin that's fine, but when others point out political realities that's "Hijacking the thread and making it about them"?
Right, and I'm the "fool". /s
You are clearly trying to sell a lie, Governor Palin governed as the most popular Governor in America, even after your lefty amigos in the media went after her in the most vicious, sustained attack in American political history, she left office with 56% approval, which is very good, as perspective, the frontrunner Governor Romney, left office with 34% approval.
You lost Trey Grayson, who are you pushing to take out Palin?
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP’s Newest Star
Wednesday, July 11, 2007
JUNEAU, Alaska — The wipeout in the 2006 election left Republicans in such a state of dejection that they’ve overlooked the one shining victory in which a Republican star was born.
The triumph came in Alaska where Sarah Palin, a politician of eye-popping integrity, was elected governor. She is now the most popular governor in America, with an approval rating in the 90s, and probably the most popular public official in any state.
Her rise is a great (and rare) story of how adherence to principle—especially to transparency and accountability in government—can produce political success. And by the way, Palin is a conservative who only last month vetoed 13 percent of the state’s proposed budget for capital projects. The cuts, the Anchorage Daily News said, “may be the biggest single-year line-item veto total in state history.”
As recently as last year, Palin (pronounced pale-in) was a political outcast. She resigned in January 2004 as head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission after complaining to the office of Governor Frank Murkowski and to state Attorney General Gregg Renkes about ethical violations by another commissioner, Randy Ruedrich, who was also Republican state chairman.
State law barred Palin from speaking out publicly about ethical violations and corruption. But she was vindicated later in 2004 when Ruedrich, who’d been reconfirmed as state chairman, agreed to pay a $12,000 fine for breaking state ethics laws. She became a hero in the eyes of the public and the press, and the bane of Republican leaders.
In 2005, she continued to take on the Republican establishment by joining Eric Croft, a Democrat, in lodging an ethics complaint against Renkes, who was not only attorney general but also a long-time adviser and campaign manager for Murkowski. The governor reprimanded Renkes and said the case was closed. It wasn’t. Renkes resigned a few weeks later, and Palin was again hailed as a hero.
Palin, 43, the mother of four, passed up a chance to challenge Republican senator Lisa Murkowski, the then-governor’s daughter, in 2004. She endorsed another candidate in the primary, but Murkowski won and was reelected. Palin said then that her 14-year-old son talked her out of running, though it’s doubtful that was the sole reason.
In 2006, she didn’t hesitate. She ran against Gov. Murkowski, who was seeking a second term despite sagging poll ratings, in the Republican primary. In a three-way race, Palin captured 51 percent and won in a landslide. She defeated former Democratic governor Tony Knowles in the general election, 49 percent to 41 percent. She was one of the few Republicans anywhere in the country to perform above expectations in 2006, an overwhelmingly Democratic year. Palin is unabashedly pro life.
With her emphasis on ethics and openness in government, “it turned out Palin caught the temper of the times perfectly,” wrote Tom Kizzia of the Anchorage Daily News. She was also lucky. News broke of an FBI investigation of corruption by legislators between the primary and general elections. So far, three legislators have been indicted.
In the roughly three years since she quit as the state’s chief regulator of the oil industry, Palin has crushed the Republican hierarchy (virtually all male) and nearly every other foe or critic. Political analysts in Alaska refer to the “body count” of Palin’s rivals.
“The landscape is littered with the bodies of those who crossed Sarah,” says pollster Dave Dittman, who worked for her gubernatorial campaign. It includes Ruedrich, Renkes, Murkowski, gubernatorial contenders John Binkley and Andrew Halcro, the three big oil companies in Alaska, and a section of the Daily News called “Voice of the Times,” which was highly critical of Palin and is now defunct.
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