[Partisan Gunslinger]

THe south if they had gained there freedom would have resemble the US under the AoC. They were fighting against centralized govt. YOu cannot judge the North or the South by what happened during wartime.

Wrong. The south gave us the commie FDR, that's where his voter base was. FDR is the man most responsible for the mess we're in now.

Southerners aren't any more inclined to freedom than Northerners, the only reason why southern states are more republican is because they're more rural. Compare a sample of rural northerners with rural southerners and the patterns will be the same. Compare urban southerners with urban northerners and the patterns would be the same. Our differences lie in rural vs urban today, not north vs south. The presidential election county maps prove it.

[phi11yguy19]

The south gave us the commie FDR
we talking about the same guy from New York? With electoral vote margins ranging from 63% to 97%, he was a national failure.

i disagree with rural/urban 100% as well. though maps may appear that way, the dichotomy is between independent, self-sufficient, responsible individuals vs wards and beneficiaries of the state. welfare recipients, government employees, tenured "intellectuals", unionistas (e.g. anyone who doesn't need to put a fair day's work in to get a paycheck), general vote one way, while their counterparts vote the other. sure, those attitudes often trend geographically, it's nothing in the rural water that makes people "get it" more than in the city.

[central_va]

Southerners aren't any more inclined to freedom than Northerners, the only reason why southern states are more republican is because they're more rural

You know nothing about someone born in the South. You have no clue and never will.