[phi11yguy19]

The south gave us the commie FDR
we talking about the same guy from New York? With electoral vote margins ranging from 63% to 97%, he was a national failure.

i disagree with rural/urban 100% as well. though maps may appear that way, the dichotomy is between independent, self-sufficient, responsible individuals vs wards and beneficiaries of the state. welfare recipients, government employees, tenured "intellectuals", unionistas (e.g. anyone who doesn't need to put a fair day's work in to get a paycheck), general vote one way, while their counterparts vote the other. sure, those attitudes often trend geographically, it's nothing in the rural water that makes people "get it" more than in the city.

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...it's nothing in the rural water that makes people "get it" more than in the city.

You just lost all credibility with me. My county and rural counties like mine votes conservative to the tune of 75%. Show me a string of urban counties that do the same. You can't.

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we talking about the same guy from New York?

Origin of liberals make no difference as I said, urban libs in the north are the same as urban libs in the south and likewise with the conservatives in both. The south gave us Bill Clinton and Lyndon Johnson, remember?

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and Jimmy Carter, how could I forget that ultra-lib.

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we talking about the same guy from New York? With electoral vote margins ranging from 63% to 97%, he was a national failure.

But he never lost a southern state, whereas he did lose northern ones which proves my original point that the south has no lock on freedom, they're no better than northerners when compared urban to urban and rural to rural.