Poll: 4 in 10 Southerners Still Side With Confederacy

aolnews ^ | Apr 13, 2011 – 7:10 AM | lauren frayer

[OL Hickory]

A century and a half after the opening shots of the U.S. Civil War, nearly four in 10 Southerners say they still sympathize with the Confederacy.

[phi11yguy19]

If every conservative would've voted CP like I did...

If the queen had ballz she'd be king, and if everyone in the world sent me one dollar I'd be a billionaire. Very constructive thought pattern - you show an amazing grasp on reality with your "if only"s.

My theory is the way light refracts on your fantasy if world bubble makes everything outside it (like grown-ups dealing with real world problems) look distorted and confusing. Maybe one day your bubble will pop from all the hot air inside, or maybe you'll pop it so you don't suffocate in a smug cloud, but my guess is you'll live quite comfortably there as long as possible. Have fun with that!

[phi11yguy19]

So you think the best strategy is to keep doing what we've been doing since 1980 with little or no results.

I think I'd need to wear a hockey helmet to follow your logic. I don't know what "doing what we've been doing" even means, no less have I ever said anything vague and nonsensical like that, but lo and behold, you make those my words as "the best strategy". Thanks again Captain ->


If you want to try my words, I already said the only solution is to make it illegal, and the only strategy is education. You need Congressmen knowledgeable enough to take up the cause, and voters knowledgeable enough to elect them in.

There's no way to get there when the ranks of pro-lifers are filled with people like yourself who haven't searched for answers to their own questions and aren't informed enough to convince anyone on the fence, no less themselves or even pro-abortioners. I offered you a reading suggestion - which if you took it up, could potentially affect you, your meeting group pals, etc. - exponential influence just from a simple FR post suggestion. Imagine where it could go from there...

That would be a good strategy in my book, but there's a catch - the people you talk to actually have to care. If you or your group don't care enough about saving millions to put a couple hours reading in, well that definitely shows where you stand.

Of course you'd then fall back on the impressive relativist point "well they could still do it in Canada". But then I could say "IF" everyone in the world thought like you, we'd still have slavery going as strong as ever. after all, why would Britain stop it if people could still own and trade slaves to the Americas, and why would we stop it if you still do it in Cuba & Brazil.

Does it hurt when you think as much as it hurts reading your posts?

[cowboyway]

You’ve said that you’re not sure how the government should handle abortion and that, essentially, is pro-choice.

You threw your vote away on an obscure third party which had the same effect as voting for 0bama.

You should be ashamed to call yourself a conservative.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

I think I'd need to wear a hockey helmet to follow your logic. I don't know what "doing what we've been doing" even means, no less have I ever said anything vague and nonsensical like that, but lo and behold, you make those my words as "the best strategy". Thanks again Captain ->

I think we need a clear message. I've never heard exactly what our side wants to do besides "make it illegal".

If you want to try my words, I already said the only solution is to make it illegal, and the only strategy is education. You need Congressmen knowledgeable enough to take up the cause, and voters knowledgeable enough to elect them in. There's no way to get there when the ranks of pro-lifers are filled with people like yourself who haven't searched for answers to their own questions and aren't informed enough to convince anyone on the fence, no less themselves or even pro-abortioners. I offered you a reading suggestion - which if you took it up, could potentially affect you, your meeting group pals, etc. - exponential influence just from a simple FR post suggestion. Imagine where it could go from there... That would be a good strategy in my book, but there's a catch - the people you talk to actually have to care. If you or your group don't care enough about saving millions to put a couple hours reading in, well that definitely shows where you stand. Of course you'd then fall back on the impressive relativist point "well they could still do it in Canada". But then I could say "IF" everyone in the world thought like you, we'd still have slavery going as strong as ever. after all, why would Britain stop it if people could still own and trade slaves to the Americas, and why would we stop it if you still do it in Cuba & Brazil. Does it hurt when you think as much as it hurts reading your posts?

Man, you sure are a drama queen. I can post 1 sentence and you answer with 4 large paragraphs ranging on several different topics, this last one is about abortion and you managed to turn 1 sentence from me about abortion into some kind of slavery argument. When I posted that a group of us meets in my living room to discuss politics and bible prophecy you went on and on finally ending with "God help us all" or some sort. Do you really think that a few people meeting in my house requires divine intervention to save you from whatever it is you're imagining we discuss?

I've got a question about your "traitor" label for me: Do you believe that traitors should be executed and if so, then should every conservative who refused to vote for the liberal John McCain and instead voted for the CP be executed?

[Partisan Gunslinger]

You’ve said that you’re not sure how the government should handle abortion and that, essentially, is pro-choice.

I'd like to try something that will get results. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We've been fighting this battle for 31 years with conservative presidents and conservative congresses from time to time helping us and we have little to show for it. If the answer was easy we would have done it already. Hence the need for questions.

[phi11yguy19]

I think we need a clear message. I've never heard exactly what our side wants to do besides "make it illegal".

Sorry, pal but that's how a society ruled by law works. The most you can hope for is to get the laws right and that people follow them, or if not get punished. How you've made it this far in life without understanding that is quite remarkable. Making it illegal would defer millions of "convenience" killings...not bad for a single law, unless your a rainbow-chasing idealist who can only live with all-or-nothing.

Do you really think that a few people meeting in my house requires divine intervention to save you from whatever it is you're imagining we discuss?

No, because you again distort other people's words to make a point, because you have no point to make on your own. My comment was if you're representative of "conservatives" in general (as you proclaim yourself) then "God help us all", because we don't stand a chance. I know, if my sentences are longer than 5 words you get confused (heaven forbid I use big boy stuff like paragraphs or analogies), but that's the beauty of reading...you can take all the time you need so you don't keep jumping to false conclusions.

Do you believe that traitors should be executed and if so, then should every conservative who refused to vote for the liberal John McCain and instead voted for the CP be executed?

Wow, yet another distortion to make a point you otherwise couldn't - building quite the impressive track record. My point was that if you think Obama is "the enemy" (your words, not mine) and you aided him to intentionally "hasten America's trip to rock bottom" (paraphrasing, but again your words, not mine), then that would be a spot on definition of "traitor". Unfortunately, I don't view our president as "the enemy" like you (awful, misguided and dangerous - yes, enemy - no), so only only you can pass judgment using your own rationale. On that note, if you feel you know the correct sentence for that crime, then by all means.

[phi11yguy19]

I'd like to try something that will get results. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We've been fighting this battle for 31 years

When you say incredibly short-sighted things like this as you have before, you really shouldn't repeat them to drive home your ignorance...

Your "deep" historical perspective dates back 31 years (R v W was '73, so I'll give you 38 years). Abortion's been around for millenniums, and it was illegal in this country for 197 years before the exponential explosion that started upon legalization. The only "insanity" here is to consider that irrelevant, to think 31 (or 38) > 197 (or 3500) years, and say "hence the need for questions" that you don't really want to find answers for.

[cowboyway]

You’re pro-choice and pro-0bama.

It’s people like you that prove that the good guys were right in 1861.

[phi11yguy19]

Per today’s speech, Israel joins us in thanking you for Obama.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

Unfortunately, I don't view our president as "the enemy" like you (awful, misguided and dangerous - yes, enemy - no), so only only you can pass judgment using your own rationale. On that note, if you feel you know the correct sentence for that crime, then by all means.

Obama is not misguided, he's a muslim who is looking to destroy this country to be forever remembered as a hero in his imagined future caliphate. I can't believe you think he is just stupid. Everything he does is on purpose.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

Your "deep" historical perspective dates back 31 years (R v W was '73, so I'll give you 38 years).

31 years since we've had a president with our values. You have no ability to analyze.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

You’re pro-choice and pro-0bama. It’s people like you that prove that the good guys were right in 1861.

You lie in every post. Typical of a supporter of the slaver's rebellion.

[Gaffer]

Well, I don’t want to kill my Northern brothers; I just want to get the hell away from them and leave their union, peacefully. “Northern Brothers?” By this I mean this odd collection of third worlder, non-assimilating immigrants, government dole subsiders, progressive liberals, Democrats, elites, no-goods, and wannabe dominators who want to take my freedom. They mainly reside in probably less than 50 counties or boroughs in this country, yet they comprise an awesome percentage of the total population.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

Per today’s speech, Israel joins us in thanking you for Obama.

You helped by voting for McCain. You shojuld've voted for a party that actively supports the Chistian way, like the CP platform says.

[central_va]

It is a shame that a state(s) will probably fight their way out of this bastard union that Lincoln gave us. It shouldn’t be this way. What happened to the republic?

[Gaffer]

It became this way when no-good voters discovered they could vote themselves boon from people who were willing to give it to them, for just their freedom and their own personal drive for absolute power over another human being. That’s how.

[cowboyway]

You go to hell. You believe in baby killing and you helped 0bama get elected, you POS. Those are not lies. They’re facts based on your own words, moron.

You’re just a typical stinking yankee and proves that the good guys were right in 1861.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

You believe in baby killing and you helped 0bama get elected, you POS. Those are not lies. They’re facts based on your own words, moron.

Lies, lies, lies. You do the south so proud, as did all the slave owners of 1861.

[cowboyway]

You believe in baby killing and you helped 0bama get elected, you POS. Those are not lies. They’re facts based on your own words, moron.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

You believe in baby killing and you helped 0bama get elected, you POS. Those are not lies. They’re facts based on your own words, moron.

Earlier on this thread I said abortion is murder, and you know it you typical slaver-supporting liar. One of the best moments in this country's history was when the forces of lies and slavery were defeated by the forces of good...and liars like you are continuing proof of that even 150+ years later.