Posted on 05/02/2011 12:20:12 PM PDT by rxsid
"Live Updates From Obama Eligibility Hearing At The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in Pasadena...
Gary from GUL will be giving me periodic phone updates from the hearing in Pasadena, California. This post will be updated as news is forthcoming...
11:55(et): Gary just informed me that the hearing has been put at the end of the docket and will begin in about 1-2 hours after the original scheduling time of 9am California time. It is the the 4th case on the docket. Gary reports that ABC, CBS and CSPAN are in the courtroom. Atty Kreep informed Gary that CSPAN will be broadcasting the oral arguments live on CSPAN TV. I have yet to see it mentioned at CSPAN.
12:03(et): Gary just informed me that attorney Phil Berg is there assisting attorney Kreep at the hearing...
12:35(et): Captain Barnett just emailed me from the hearing; hi in court now. our case is last. Orly Taitz, Gary Kreep, Phil Berg, Wiley Drake, myself and a few supporters are here. Didn't see Alan Keyes.
1:32(et): Captain Barnett; earlier I heard a self-identified DOJ attorney joking with an AP writer that he couldn't believe that they had to be here (court) in referring to the obama eligibility case. They were both laughing so I gave them a 1 page memo on Natural Born and it' importantance and the country's adhereance to the two citizen parent and born within the jurisdiction of the United States requirement that Obama is the only "president" except Chester Arthur who concealed and destroyed his records that did not meet the two citizen requirement. Peace out for now.
2:47(et): Gary just informed me that oral arguments will begin in about 5 minutes. He said the court room is packed with about 80 people and a few in the overflow room. He stated numerous different media outlets are at the hearing.
Stay tuned for more updates..."
Taitz brief:
Barnett/Keyes et al. v Obama et al. - Appeal - Taitz - Reply Brief for Review - 9th Circuit - 10/27/10
Kreep brief:
Barnett/Keyes et al. v Obama et al. - Appeal - Kreep - Reply Brief for Review - 9th Circuit - 10/27/10
Plain as the ugly nose on my face. :)
“Sometimes a horse is entered who isn’t eligible; and the stewards reject the entry. Sometimes a horse fails a pre-race drug test and is scratched. And then the race is run, some horse wins, the winning bettors are paid, and the purse is distributed to the top finishers in the race. Maybe the winning owner gets a trophy or a julep cup. After that the winner comes under increased scrutiny for additional drugs or drugs that take a longer time to detect. If this winner is found, post hoc, to not have been eligible, he is declared to have been ineligible. Not everything can be set right after the fact, but the things that can be set right are. There is no way to recover the money from the winning bettors so they don’t even try. But they do redistribute the purse money and the owner of the disgraced horse has to give back the julep cup if he got one. Sometimes the trainer or the jockey (who might have been found to have illegally stimulated the horse with an electrical device) are suspended or banned from racing entirely.”
I like this analogy of yours that reminds us all how we are all subject to the ‘rules’.
Although the "new Hawaiian birth certificate," is most likely a forgery, I don't think the procedural rules for this appellate hearing would allow them to submit it in evidence. Then too, if it was admitted in evidence here, it could be attacked in the future by the plaintiffs in this case or in other cases on the grounds that Obama's father's alien status at the time of Obama's birth, as inferred from the "birth certificate" and other documents, demonstrates that Obama is not a natural born citizen and is therefore ineligible to be POTUS.
Obama’s lawyers will not present any documents in court that cannot be verified as legit by the opposition.
In all these years of litigation, never once has that infamous Certification of Live Birth, the COLB, been presented in court. It was too risky.
I believe BHO’s lawyers this time around will continue on the same or similiar course; no BC or COLB to be presented.
I’m sure you are correct.
“Justice Delayed Is Justice Denied!”
Orly Taitz should be congratulated for her courage to mention Lt. Col. Lakin in her argument.
Is standing actually "law"? Well, I don't think you'll find it in any federal statutes, but lawyers would say that it is part of "case law," because it is discussed in court decisions.
In every news article about any hearing TAX PAID attorneys have been present. These TAX PAID attorneys are not BHO attorneys. They are employees of the American citizen.
Why should one dime of tax money be spent on such a simple matter?
Fact: It is simple to prove one’s natural born citizenship. It is simple to do so in a clear, unambiguous, and prompt manner.
Fact: Unanointed Americans routinely release these clear, certifiable, and unambiguous documents routinely for many reasons.
Fact: Obama has NEVER released clear, certifiable, and unambiguous documents that would prove his natural born citizenship.
Let me say right up front I agree, that Obama IS using lawyers paid for by the taxpayers, meaning people like you and me. He would never spend his own fortune when he can defraud the government. So, how to prove it?
I always get asked this, and so the problem with your statements about the lawyers being all tax paid attorneys, is “where is your proof”?
Do we have to wait until he is out of office, and pray that all records haven’t been torched?
If you have a source, please share.
Actually, the document the White House released last week is titled "CERTIFICATE of Live Birth," not "Certification." Regardless, it was most likely phony, and Obama's lawyers would have been foolish to even mention it.
Lack of "Standing" is a much more convenient way for them to argue for the lower court's decision. For the judiciary, lack of "standing" is a convenient game to play as well, because it insulates Obama from any court decision on the constitutional eligibilty issue on its merits.
It is easy for you to do your own research. Check any article in any of these cases where Obama attorneys are interviewed and they will identify all or some of them as government attorneys.
The most compelling single reason why Obama's legal defense team in this case should not be paid by the American taxpayer is very simple:
The complaint does not concern any action undertaken by Obama in his official capacity as president (nor as US senator, for that matter). The only issues in the complaint arise from Obama's personal history, and the case commenced before he assumed the presidency.
It's standard and legal for government attorneys to defend officials or agencies accused in civil complaints with particular actions taken in their capacity as public servants. But representing a current official on charges arising from facts entirely predating his term in in office is outside the scope of the Justice Department's statutory power.
From Dr. Taitz's site:
"I need to explain a couple of points, which people might not know or understand. I filed this case as the only attorney on inauguration day. Gary Kreep joined only towards the end. I represent Ambassador Alan Keyes, 10 state representatives and 30 members of the military. Kreep represents only 2 clients. After Carter ordered the case dismissed Kreep filed his appeal right away. I filed a motion for reconsideration in order to preserve several issues on appeal. After Carter denied my motion for reconsideration, I filed my appeal. Kreep had only one issue -standing of his 2 clients, members of American independent party: Drake and Robinson, and the judges were saying that they do not have any particular standing. their standing does not differ from standing of others.I have 40 clients with different standing and more hearings and motions and decisions, as I was an attorney on the case the whole time. Unfotunately a dirty trick was played in relation to time to speak during the oral argument.
Additionally, it was a complete outrage, where a concerted effort was made by this Perkins Coie attorney and the court to attack me personally and try to elevate Kreep. You would see that for the longest time only I and Mario were continuing to push Vattel’s definition of Natural born. Kreep and Berg were fighting us. If arguendo the birth certificate would be valid, than it would end the whole issue of eligibility. If you read all of Kreep’s and Berg’s arguments until now, they argued, that Natural born is one born in the country. I was arguing that it is a combination of birth and citizenship of parents. Also, none of the attorneys dared to touch the issue of social secuity fraud.
Of great concern is the fact that Kreep and Berg harassed me with frivolous law suits, which cost me a lot of time and money. If these people are really on our side, why are they harassing me with law suits?
I filed a motion with the court of Appeals asking for the maximum time, which is 20 minutes for the defendant and 20 for the plaintiffs. The court of appeals granted maximum time and stated that we need to divide it equally between 2 cases and the case with the lower numerical number goes first. Kreep’s appeal started with 09-, my started with 10-, so he was first. He was supposed to talk for 10 minutes and stop and let me speak for 10 minutes. Instead Kreep did something totally creepy: he spoke for 18 minute and said that he wants the remaining 2 minutes for rebuttal. He clearly saw that the clock was set for 20 minutes, which was supposed to be divided. Luckily, as I stepped to the lectern, I noticed that the clock showed 2 minutes left and argued and demanded my full 10 minutes, but what Kreep did, was a really dirty trick. Yet another one.
... "
Complete posting, here: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=21319
obumpa
This quote and my remarks have been on my home page for quite some time...maybe a year. IIRC, he began using the DoJ and TAX PAID attorneys about the time he hit the $1 million mark in expenditures.
As those figures climbed to $2 million and above I repeatedly made comments about the fact he was usuing the DoJ, but was promtly ignored so I put the info on my page. Somewhere I'm sure I have the source of that info, if it hasn't been scrubbed from the web.
"I was a constitutional law professor, [LIAR!]
which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution,"
"I believe in an attorney general who is actually the people's lawyer, not the president's lawyer."
BS aka BO, March 30, 2007[My how things change once one inhabits the People’s House with access to the people’s wallets. Suddenly it has become perfectly acceptable to use the attorney general and the entire department of justice as your own personal law team. Commie hypocrite! The fact that you ran for office without providing documentation proving you were constitutionally eligible proves you are no respecter of the Constitution.]
What is Orly’s web site address?
Thanks for the ping. Sounds like Kreep is a creep. And to make the case that “born in the country” is a NBC. What’s their game?
Thanks.....she has a pretty interesting site.
She just send off a letter to the doctor who signed for Zero’s recent “certificate”.
DR. ORLY TAITZ ESQ
29839 SANTA MARGARITA PKWY, STE 100
RANCHO SANTA MARGARITA CA 92688
ph. 949-683-5411
May 4, 2011
Via certified mail
Dr. Alvin T. Onaka
State Registrar and Chief of the Office of Health Status Monitoring of the Hawaii Department of Health
1250 Punchbowl Street.
Honolulu, Hawaii, 96813
REQUEST OF ACCESS TO RECORDS UNDER HAWAII UNIFORM INFORMATION PRACTICES ACT OF 1975
Dear Mr. Onaka,
For the last three years there were multiple requests made for release of Mr. Barack Hussein Obama’s long form birth certificate.
In December of 2010 a highly Decorated U.S. military officer, bronze star recipient, Lt. Col Terry Lakin, was imprisoned, after he questioned, whether President Obama is legitimate for office in light of the fact, that he does not have a valid long form birth certificate. Lakin stated, that if he as an officer is required to show his birth certificate, so should the Commander-in-Chief. When LTC, Dr. Lakin stated that he would redeploy only after he could see a valid long form birth certificate of Obama, he was court -martialed, stripped of his military pension after 17 years of service and imprisoned. At the time, Mr. Obama ignored all requests from hundreds of citizens, refused to show his long form birth certificate and LTC Lakin was sent to rot in Fort Leavenworth prison.
Recently a multibillionaire, Donald Trump, raised this issue and quickly rose in polls as a leading presidential candidate for the 2012 election. At the same time 9th Circuit court of Appeals allowed my case Keyes, Barnett et al v Obama to be presented at oral argument, which usually a sign that the court sees merit in the appeal. In this case, I, as an attorney for plaintiffs, demanded release of Mr. Obama’s long form birth certificate, among a number of other documents. In an apparent preemptive strike, just two working days before the court hearing, Mr. Obama released, what he claimed to be a true and correct copy of his birth certificate. (Exhibit 1)
Analysis of what Mr. Obama released to the public, shows that it cannot possibly be a true and correct copy of the 1961 typewritten birth certificate, that Mr. Obama claims to have. While there some 70 areas in this computer image, indicative of the fact, that it is not a true and correct copy of the original birth certificate, most visible are following areas and easily demonstrated by comparing Mr. Obama’s computer image with a birth certificate given to one, Susan Nordyke, born only a few hours after Mr. Obama, in the same hospital (Exhibit 2).
1. Original birth certificate was issued on white paper. Nordyke birth certificate is indeed on white paper, which is turning yellow due to aging process. Obama’s birth certificate is on green safety paper, which was not used at the time.
2. Nordyke birth certificate has defined borders. Obama’s birth certificate does not have borders.
3. Nordyke birth certificate contains an easily identifiable seal; Obama’s birth certificate does not have a seal.
4. Nordyke birth certificate contains certification, that the above is a true and correct copy of the record, while Obama birth certificate states “…record or ABSTRACT of the record”. (emphasis added). Since abstract of record can be absolutely anything, including old wives tales, literary, there is a need to inspect the original birth certificate in the health department.
Release of records typically involves balancing of the rights of the individual whose records are revealed against the rights of the public.
As Mr. Obama revealed his purported birth certificate with great fanfare and called all doubters “carnival barkers,”- he clearly will have no valid privacy claims in opposition to a request to see his original birth certificate in the Health Department in Hawaii.
On the other hand, there is a significant public interest. LTC Lakin is sitting in prison, denied a right to know, -whether we have a legitimate president.
Many others around the country have similar doubts. These doubts were enhanced by the following facts:
a. Mr. Obama’s selective service certificate (Exhibit 3) shows him using a Connecticut Social Security number 042-68-4425
b. Social Security Verification Systems (Exhibit 4) show that this number was never assigned to Mr. Obama.
If Mr. Obama had a valid long form birth certificate, issued to him in 1961 in the state of Hawaii, he did not need to resort to using an invalid Connecticut Social Security number.
American citizens are entitled to know, whether an individual occupying the position of the President of the United States and Commander in Chief is committing Social Security fraud and elections fraud.
As such the Public Interest greatly outweighs any privacy concerns Mr. Obama might have.
Wherefore
1. I respectfully request access to the original 1961 birth certificate of Mr. Obama for me and my forensic document experts.
2. I request a clarification, whether a computer image presented by Mr. Obama as a true and correct copy of his birth certificate, was actually signed by you
2. If you indeed signed this document, what was used as the original? As it does not resemble the original documents from 1961, did you use a notation in archives as an abstract and the basis for creating this “document”.
Respectfully submitted,
Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
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