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IIRC, this is the first time that Leo has confirmed that in his opinion it is not the nationality of the sperm donor but the the legal relationship of the child to the father, i.e. whether the father and mother were legally either married or unmarried, which determines whether UK citizenship and dual citizen allegiance would pass to Obama from his father.

IMO, this means that without a legal marriage (non-bigamous under HI and Kenya law), Obama would have no allegiance to the UK at birth either under US law or the 1948 BNA which explicitly excludes illegitimate children. Leo is saying that if SADO was legally single and Obama was born on US soil, Obama would be NBC.

Up until this comment, which follows the release of BHO Sr.'s "playboy" activities, Leo has been sensitive to the "reputation" of Obama and jealously guarded the "admission against interest" by Obama in which Obama said that the children of BHO I were "governed by" the 1948 BNA, all the while knowing that the 1948 BNA has an illegitimacy exclusion.

Leo's willingness to put this comment on his blog may have been triggered by the release of BHO I's Immigration records. The records show that US Immigration was so suspicious of the marriage that they recommended an investigation of whether or not the marriage to SADO was a sham marriage, should she ever request immigration preference for her husband. Leo couldn't ignore that even the US government was questioning the Obama-Dunham marriage in 1964 in light of the evidence if a prior legal Kenya marriage and no legal divirce in Kenya.

This admission by Leo places his long crusade to prove that Obama is not NBC at risk. But this loophole, which would allow Obama to be NBC if born in HI, may be why so many in the GOP have stayed away from this issue.

The voting public, particularly independents, might react badly to Obama being forced by partisans to defend his eligibility by proving that is is a "bastard."

1 posted on 05/02/2011 8:38:07 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; Nachum; Red Steel; rxsid; Beckwith; Kenny Bunk; Spaulding; David; WhizCodger

Ping...


2 posted on 05/02/2011 8:41:21 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

All this means then is that seeing a certified COLB as is generated by the DOH with the DOH embossed seal is not even good enough...

...i.e., you need the sealed birth record to be opened in court under subpoena.

That is extremely difficult to accomplish...Leo will tell you that...

There is of course the adoption and Indonesian citizenship angle...but that is not an easy one either - you need those passports, college transcripts and financial aid/scholariship records.

So it’s still 2nd and 6 at the 5 yard line.

We are at the 5 yard line because of Debbie Schlussel having the good luck of receiving Selective Service records. Only probblem with those was that they only showed that SOMEBODY altered the record or filed a phony record...i.e., we can’t say it was Obama that did it.

This is and will continue to be a tough one to crack and Obama is doing everything he can to keep it that way.

=8-)


5 posted on 05/02/2011 9:17:06 AM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: Seizethecarp

I find it interesting that the GOP has this tendency to nominate candidates for pres who are weak when the Dems run a questionable character.

First, was the campaign of Bob Dole against Clintoon’s second term.
That one was a complete throw away.

Then, we run McCain, who appeared to have some questions about HIS eligibility as well. What, we couldn’t find someone to run who DIDN’T have that problem?

It ALL smells.


9 posted on 05/02/2011 9:29:24 AM PDT by TruthConquers (.Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Seizethecarp
This admission by Leo places his long crusade to prove that Obama is not NBC at risk.

Oh, BS.

You're trying to take a generalization and turn it into a particular. Does Leo know your misrepresenting what he's said?

The marriage was not 'bigamous' under US law because the other wife was OUTSIDE US jurisdiction. It would have been up to Stanley Ann to state the reasons for the divorce. In fact, under Hawaiian law, she could have gotten an annulment on the grounds of bigamy, but she did not.

She was legally married to O Sr. She petitioned a court for a divorce and was granted it. This makes the marriage a legal fact.

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If SADO was "raped" Obama is NBC)

IF frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their butts when they hopped either...so what was your point, again?

13 posted on 05/02/2011 10:28:03 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Seizethecarp
eligibility trial today updates
17 posted on 05/02/2011 11:47:07 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; Nachum; Red Steel; Kenny Bunk; rxsid; Beckwith; Fractal Trader; little jeremiah; ..
Creepy events of “concern” ping...

Donofrio has pulled the following blog posting (still available in cache today) which had links to and an affirmation of Miss Tickly’s claim to prove Obama LFBC forgery based on the Nordyke BC:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/miss-tickly-proves-obamas-new-document-is-a-fraud/

Shortly before Donofrio pulled his posting, Miss Tickly suddenly announced yesterday or the day before that she was shutting down her entire blogsite and invited everyone to download whatever they wanted ASAP. This is the "proof" blog that she posted which Donofrio's story linked to:

http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/the-odds-are-racist/

One of the last comments on the pulled Donofrio posting was by FReeper Kenny Bunk who gently refuted Leo's adamant assertion in this pulled comment thread that there was “no evidence” that BHO Sr. was married to Kezia and thus Donofrio claimed that Obama still must be considered to have received UK citizenship from his father via a legal HI non-bigamous marriage to SADO. I had also posted that the 1948 BNA explicitly excludes illegitimate children in a comment the Leo has allowed to remain on an earlier post of his.

So why were first the Miss Tickly and then the Donofrio blog posts on this claimed forensic evidence taken down?

Were either of them threatened?

Did either or both of them lose confidence in the fraud evidence that they were claiming?

Did Miss Tickly go bonkers and pull her blog on advice of her MD to reduce stress?

Are Miss Tickly “going dark” to prepare or participate in a grand jury indictment of Obama in a cooperative venue they have found?

“Something not right!”

44 posted on 05/06/2011 12:35:05 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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If a woman who is a US natural born citizen is raped on US soil, by a man who is not a US natural born citzen, and that child is born in the US, is the child a US natural born citizen?

Leo Donofrio: Yes the child is nbc. The child owes no allegiance to the country of the father. – leo
Ok, then that may well be the nail in the coffin of the birther movement, because SAD really WAS raped. She was 17 when impregnated by the 25 year old BHO senior. That is statutory rape. It should not matter that the felony was obscured by a (sham?) marriage.

Then again, we don't yet KNOW the product of that scum was really born in the USA, or that SAD was really his biological mother [why so many photoshop'ed images of the young future bastard in chief?]. Or that BHO senior was really the father. Or that BHO was really the bastard's original name at birth.

We really don't know anything about the scum, other than by his own admission he is a bastard of a statutory rape.

60 posted on 05/11/2011 1:52:39 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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