Creepy events of “concern” ping...
. . . . Mystery here.
Thanks, Seizethecarp.
Posted on 05/02/2011 8:37:59 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
Dee Bee Says:
If a woman who is a US natural born citizen is raped on US soil, by a man who is not a US natural born citzen, and that child is born in the US, is the child a US natural born citizen?
Leo Donofrio: Yes the child is nbc. The child owes no allegiance to the country of the father. – leo
(Excerpt) Read more at naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ...
One State AG with clear vision, fortitude and guts. Who could imagine that in The USA, such a character would be that difficult to find?
The whole trick is to turn Obama into the plaintiff, rather than a defendant.
his fbomb speech has lessened his lustre....
I am hoping he is timing his info drop to coincide with Corsi’s book.
I would salute him as a great American, just not as a primary contender...
My question to Trump is “When are you dropping ‘The Other Shoe?” Now that he has flushed a BC out into the open he must drop the other shoe and talk “Natural Born Citizen.”
KB:
I think Trump is regrouping after the LFBC image release and awaiting the release of Corsi’s book to provide context for a public awareness campaign to educate opinion on what NBC means.
At the end of the road, Obama might be NBC, but he might have to declare himself to be a bastard to get there!
From my comment #30
“For Barry to be a UK subject and dual-citizen would depend on how the UK would apply their own 1948 BNA law and the Kenya Colonial 1902 Marriage Act.”
I am eagerly awaiting the transcript of the hearing in the 9th Circuit in CA yesterday to see what the questions from the judges were to Kreep.
Orly, as usual, either intentionally or unwittingly treated the hearing as though it was an evidentiary hearing and dumped a lot of claims on the appeals panel which were not the subject of the hearing.
Kreep, I am sure, properly focused on how Judge Carter failed to apply the law to the facts that were actually before the district court.
Donofrio has pulled the following blog posting (still available in cache today) which had links to and an affirmation of Miss Tickly’s claim to prove Obama LFBC forgery based on the Nordyke BC:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/miss-tickly-proves-obamas-new-document-is-a-fraud/
Shortly before Donofrio pulled his posting, Miss Tickly suddenly announced yesterday or the day before that she was shutting down her entire blogsite and invited everyone to download whatever they wanted ASAP. This is the "proof" blog that she posted which Donofrio's story linked to:
http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/the-odds-are-racist/
One of the last comments on the pulled Donofrio posting was by FReeper Kenny Bunk who gently refuted Leo's adamant assertion in this pulled comment thread that there was “no evidence” that BHO Sr. was married to Kezia and thus Donofrio claimed that Obama still must be considered to have received UK citizenship from his father via a legal HI non-bigamous marriage to SADO. I had also posted that the 1948 BNA explicitly excludes illegitimate children in a comment the Leo has allowed to remain on an earlier post of his.
So why were first the Miss Tickly and then the Donofrio blog posts on this claimed forensic evidence taken down?
Were either of them threatened?
Did either or both of them lose confidence in the fraud evidence that they were claiming?
Did Miss Tickly go bonkers and pull her blog on advice of her MD to reduce stress?
Are Miss Tickly “going dark” to prepare or participate in a grand jury indictment of Obama in a cooperative venue they have found?
“Something not right!”
Creepy events of “concern” ping...
. . . . Mystery here.
Thanks, Seizethecarp.
naturalborncitizen Says:
May 6, 2011 at 2:15 PM
Miss Tickly is shutting her blog down. So I removed my last post about her out of respect for her decision. I don’t know anymore about it other than what she has posted.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/bon-appetite-birth-certificate/
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Comment on his site:
anyone born in the US with at least one non citizen parent is.
Pro Graphics Says:
May 4, 2011 at 2:02 AM
I have over 25 years of graphic/photographic effect/analysis. For different reasons, I, too, say it’s a fake.
The “Birther Report” was nice enough to publish my own graphic analysis here
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/comparative-analysis-by-pro-graphics.html
and I come to the same conclusion of fraud but for different reasons. I do not debate the repeated lettering which shows tampering, I agree with it. However, adhering to “Occum’s razor” (keep scientific models simple) the most basic evidence is being missed: the long form Obama submitted is not a copy of an old document. It is a copy of a new document. My impression was that we were not supposed to take Obama or Hawaii’s word for it, and would be given a copy of a legit 50-year-old long form. The document copied is not 50-years-old. Period. Any expert from any number of professional fields will attest to it.
It lacks all signs whatsoever of aging to a degree that the fake is a very amateur forgery. It’s so amateur you can prove it yourself: copy your own “middle-aged” long form birth certificate in every way you can think of: photocopy, scanner, what-have-you. Yours will show signs of age and if you lighten it to the point it does not, it will not be gray-scale sensitive enough to show pencil marks the way Obama’s does (which I suspect were copied handwritten notations imitating the Nordyke BC to create a circumstantial touch to give a sense of legitimacy to the document).
While I agree somewhat with Miss Tickly, my own view is that people are missing the big picture. This document is pathetically not old. Check my analysis, copy your own birth certificate and see for yourselves. There is nothing magic about Hawaii’s “official” original or document copy methods. Sometimes the simple answer is the right one:
What Obama presented is simply not a copy of a document that could have been made in 1961 because it is 100% without any manifestations of aging. It is a fresh copy of a very recently created document. Absolutely. There is no doubt.
ed. Excellent points. Thank you for contributing. – Leo
Leo has just posted his own explanation of why he took down his Miss Tickly page. He knows her, so I am not sure whether he is being completely candid:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/bon-appetite-birth-certificate/#comment-17608
naturalborncitizen Says: (<-—this is Leo Donofrio)
May 6, 2011 at 2:15 PM
“Miss Tickly is shutting her blog down. So I removed my last post about her out of respect for her decision. I don’t know anymore about it other than what she has posted.”
Doesn’t matter.
He admits to being born a dual citizen in which his allegiance was divided.
Further, what passport did he travel to Kenya and other countries as a young man? American, Kenyan, Indonesian or British?
Bizarre. I saw Miss Tickly’s recent post on the birth certificate, although I neglected to make a copy of it. And now the whole website has vanished. No idea how to account for it, but this is rather chilling.
Hmmmmmm.....hope she is OK.
Thanks for the ping.
I subscribe to an RSS feed for Tickly’s site and noticed earlier today she was shutting down. I opened and saved a few of of her posts. I did not get a sense of urgency in her comments. I did not know that others were closing down as well. That is of course curious.
If one was to bow to a conspiracy theory, this week would be a gold mind of information.....
does anyone have the docs that miss tickly removed from her site? I’ve been so busy I missed out on all that and didn’t know it was going to be removed.
McCain won the nomination by winning in states that allowed cross-over voting. His campaign was kept alive by the Dems.
We had some fun doing the same thing voting for H Clintoon to mess up the Dem primaries.
Why are “open” primaries allowed?
. . . . # 54 for link to Miss Tickly info.
Open primaries are allowed to insure no conservatives become candidates. RINOs, GOP elitists and Dems love them.
We don’t really have a two party system any more.
Thanks for the ping LucyT!
Any chance MT is in Hawaii with Corsi this week??? I would believe Trump is somehow involved somehow with Corsi’s latest investigative trek...
MHO for your consideration.
The HIDOH released a "Certificate of Live Birth." It is not a "copy" of anything. Rather it is an "Abstract" of data on file. It is a newly created document. We are not privy to those files or data from which it was "abstracted," so we actually have no idea whether or not there is more on file.
That is what the WH released: a genuine "COPY" of a newly created "Abstract."
This gives excellent plausible deniability and therefore, by careful parsing, is at least semi-defensible as "telling the truth."
It is also pretty darn slick!
Yes, it does TC. Thanks for the ping, LucyT. Great thread. Thanks to EVERY poster/researcher/linker/educator. BTTT!
If a woman who is a US natural born citizen is raped on US soil, by a man who is not a US natural born citzen, and that child is born in the US, is the child a US natural born citizen?Ok, then that may well be the nail in the coffin of the birther movement, because SAD really WAS raped. She was 17 when impregnated by the 25 year old BHO senior. That is statutory rape. It should not matter that the felony was obscured by a (sham?) marriage.
Leo Donofrio: Yes the child is nbc. The child owes no allegiance to the country of the father. – leo
Then again, we don't yet KNOW the product of that scum was really born in the USA, or that SAD was really his biological mother [why so many photoshop'ed images of the young future bastard in chief?]. Or that BHO senior was really the father. Or that BHO was really the bastard's original name at birth.
We really don't know anything about the scum, other than by his own admission he is a bastard of a statutory rape.
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