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To: BB62
FYI, the information at the end of the article pertaining to Indonesia is very important. According to the divorce docs, Obama was adopted & therefore legally an Indonesian citizen. If he came back into the country without going through INS, he would still be considered a citizen of Indonesia 1st.

This has been my personal belief all along, that it has nothing to do with his birth place but rather his Indonesian citizenship that he still claimed to have & acted as an adult.

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/02/21/whiplash-syndrome-feverishly-sweeping-the-nation/

But, even if he had renounced those citizenships when he came of age in 1979, under the definition, he could have never held any other US citizenship, other than that of, “citizen by way of birth on the soil only” under the 14th Amendment which we will get to shortly.

This man spent the most impressionable years of his life fathered by 2 foreigners, one British/Kenyan and the other Indonesian. The rest of his youth he spent under the wing of a “Proud Communist” grandfather and also under the wing of the county’s most renowned communist at the time, Frank Marshall Davis, who fled the mainland for Hawaii to avoid prosecution. So, for all of BHO aka BHS’s young life before he came of age, he either was under the wing of foreigners or citizens who hated America and the Constitution and fought politically to undermine the country and the Constitution until the day they died.

Now some say that because of the Indonesian citizenship, he was automatically disqualified, but this is where I disagree with those claims.

Citizenship at birth can never be changed. History and research are very clear on this point. However, the actions of the person once they become of age, come into play as to qualifications for any elected office, thus the reason for the 14 year requirement in Article II, Section 1, Clause V...

You also, now know the 1stof the many ugly truths as to why BHO aka BHS is having such a hard time with foreign policy that is leaving even the toughest of our brave military personnel quaking in their boots.

He hasn’t figured out which one, of the sovereign nations he holds allegiance to, is the most important/beneficial to his agenda as of yet. His “Global Campaign Tour of 2008”, where he made sure to stop in communist country as well as Muslim country announcing to all he is a “global citizen” (in which he “literally” is according to court and government records) was my 1st clue that prompted the old saying: “Houston, we have a problem”.

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/constitutional-nuclear-bomb-blasts-obamas-eligibilty-to-smithereens/

Former assist US Attorney, Andrew McCarthy, in his most recent eligibilty article at NRO wrote this of the qualifications and stated that Obama was Kenyan at birth which is misleading, Obama was British at birth, Kenya did not gain its sovereignty from Great Britain until Obama was 2 years old:

“The overwhelming evidence is that Obama was born an American citizen on Aug. 4, 1961, which almost certainly makes him constitutionally eligible to hold his office. I say “almost certainly” because Obama, as we shall see, presents complex dual-citizenship issues. For now, let’s just stick with what’s indisputable: He was also born a Kenyan citizen. In theory, that could raise a question about whether he qualifies as a “natural born” American — an uncharted constitutional concept.”

118 posted on 04/30/2011 11:13:40 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
FYI, the information at the end of the article pertaining to Indonesia is very important. According to the divorce docs, Obama was adopted & therefore legally an Indonesian citizen. If he came back into the country without going through INS, he would still be considered a citizen of Indonesia 1st.

I detest Obama as much as the next guy and it's pretty clear to me that Bogus BC II is just that.

But I think you are wrong about how our laws treat citizens who have not made a decision as an adult to renounce their American citizenship. Assuming that Obama were an American citizen by birth, I think even if he returned here with an Indonesian passport as a minor he would still be regarded as an American citizen under our laws.

ML/NJ

148 posted on 04/30/2011 11:37:56 AM PDT by ml/nj
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