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Is the Weather being used to destroy America’s economy?
Creating Orwellian Worldview ^ | 4/29/11 | Alaphiah

Posted on 04/29/2011 5:56:42 AM PDT by Alaphiah123

What if there never was Global warming, what if it has always been Global Weather Warfare? Recent super tornados dubbed “Killer Tornadoes” have cut a swath across seven southern states of the United States. Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia,East Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee and Virginia all have been hit by abnormally sized and super strengthened tornadoes costing nearly 300 lives and estimates of billions of dollars of property damage. (see here, here and here)

But what if these recent tornadoes and hurricane Katrina in 2005 were not simply capricious acts of nature, what if these devastating destructive acts were the surgical strikes of al Qaeda or another enemy of the United States of America. An enemy with money and technology to control the weather and what’s more, use those resources against it’s enemy the United States of America.

(Excerpt) Read more at creatingorwellianworld-view-alaphiah.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: checkbrainatdoor; gagdadbob; globalwarming; haarpmoonbat; halfbaked; morethorazineplease; nutbars; ohnoes; onecosmosblog; roveweathermachine; spotthelooney; storms; tinfoil; tornadoes; weather
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To: Matchett-PI

I may be confused but aren’t Type II errors worse than Type I errors?


261 posted on 04/30/2011 10:22:44 AM PDT by marbren
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To: dirtboy
"And that expressed relevance to this thread exactly how?"

First, I was merely responding to a question.

Second, to keep things in perspective, the underlying principles that limit what physics and science are able to tell us is relevelant to this thread.

262 posted on 04/30/2011 10:24:36 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: marbren

Yes. See the last paragraph: “At least the...”


263 posted on 04/30/2011 10:27:11 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Matchett-PI
Am I a Type I person? I believe anything is possible, but instead of being paranoid, which I believe is Type I, I have faith in my Lord Jesus Christ so I can live without fear. Also, I believe the Holy Spirit will discern for me what reality is.
264 posted on 04/30/2011 10:34:54 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
If you're not paranoid, I guess not. :)

"Upton defines paranoia as "the attempt of the human mind to reach cognitive closure in a situation that does not allow for it, either because there is too little information to warrant that closure, or -- as with the paranoid schizophrenic -- too much information to make sense of, except through delusion."

A perfect example of postmodern paranoia is the weather hysteria of the greenhouse gasbags, which serves the same purpose that witch hunting did in an earlier age. ......If you are not in need of this kind of organizing fantasy in your life, it's very difficult to understand the mindset of the people who do need it. It is a kind of reverse image of genuine religion, which deals with perennial truth, not a need for cognitive closure. This is not to say that anxiety-ridden people don't misuse religion for that purpose, since they do so all the time. But in my view, just as science is a journey from the unknown to the known, religion is a journey from the known to the unknown. ...."

265 posted on 04/30/2011 10:57:26 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Matchett-PI
Is Type II error denial and normalcy bias? Everything is going to be OK now that Wills and Kate are finally married?
266 posted on 04/30/2011 11:35:04 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
"Is Type II error denial and normalcy bias? Everything is going to be OK now that Wills and Kate are finally married?"

Yes.

"In order to deny the corrosive effect of time and change, primitive groups enact rituals to reassert the original divine order. This is why you can see that the left is so astonishingly ritualistic in their thinking. For their philosophy, like any religious philosophy, revolves around certain iconographic symbols that abide outside time. They are "forever." They need only be evoked, like magical incantations, and we are back in the comfortable tribal delusions of the 1960's: "War is not the answer." "America is a racist, sexist, homophobic country." "Culture of corruption." "Tax cuts for the rich." "Be Very Afraid, the world is cooling/warming." "Global Orgasm for Peace." This is the otherwise inexplicable appeal of that cliche-ridden empty suit, Barack Obama.

Like the Islamists, the "progressive" is animated by a beautiful ideal located in the distant past. In truth, it never really existed. Rather, it is purely archetypal and precedes any particular "thoughts" about it. Once it is embraced, it then produces its own thoughts. The formality of a thinker is not required. If you peruse, say, huffingtonpost or dailykos, you will see that the memes that are reflexively channelled there are overwhelmingly angry, paranoid, and alarmist. In reality, this represents alarm over the fact that time really does exist, and rage at the fact that the wider world does not mirror their tribal ideal. ....

....The archaic community lives in a tribal memory that is impervious to the ravages of time. But as reality increasingly deviates from the sacred memory, it is the duty of every tribal member to renew, reassert and rejuvenate the ideal through rituals of various kinds. You can see these primitive magicians at dailykos, going through their various rituals and Ghost Dances, raging against reality, desperately trying to cleanse and "renew" it. ..."

HERE

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"...In fact, one of the giveaways that we are dealing with motivated stupidity is that the false belief is held onto more fervently than a demonstrably true belief. Someone who thinks something is true is generally more than willing to submit the truth to scrutiny and to allow reality (i.e., the Real, not to be confused merely with the exterior world, the fallacy of scientism) to arbitrate. But when a belief rooted in motivated stupidity is challenged, it raises the psychological hackles of the individual, triggering a cascade of easily observable defense mechanisms: projection, denial, splitting, rage, etc. ...

....it is much more difficult to do battle with a weak mind than a strong one. You understand their assumptions but they don't understand yours, so you inevitably end up on their level and thus on their home court. Plus, weak thinkers embrace their false ideas in a manner disquietingly similar to religious groups who predict the second coming, or the arrival of space ships, or the Cubs winning the World Series, but who do not modify their beliefs when the event fails to come about. In fact, it is a well-known observation that a few of the disappointed may depart from such a group, while the majority only become more thoroughly entrenched in their belief system, defending it all the more stridently....

... Only human beings can hold ideas that are completely illogical and self-defeating, since only human beings are desperately in need of an ideology, or "mental-emotional environment," to organize the external world and their internal experience, irrespective of whether it is actually functional or true. One way or another, false beliefs are the crock-in-trade of the clinical psychologist. Virtually all patients are in pain because of false beliefs. ...

In fact, there can be no doubt whatsoever that the majority of beliefs human beings have held about the world down through history have been false, usually ridiculously so. ... Leftists don't really want Bush to be Hitler. They need him to be. Desperately.

As uncomfortable as it is, it is far preferable to being left alone with their own internal infantile anxieties, with nowhere to project them. The internal world is just as real and enduring as the external.

HERE

267 posted on 04/30/2011 12:30:38 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Matchett-PI; dirtboy
fallacy of scientism

Is this TYPE II error?

268 posted on 04/30/2011 12:51:30 PM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
" 'fallacy of scientism' -- Is this TYPE II error?"

Oh, most definitely.

269 posted on 04/30/2011 1:23:48 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Matchett-PI
Can conservatism and rugged individualism be Type II error?
270 posted on 04/30/2011 1:25:13 PM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
"Can conservatism and rugged individualism be Type II error?"

Not genuine conservatism and rugged individualism because it's not regression into the primitive past

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"...In order to advance into capitalism, human beings had to get past the “envy barrier” and tolerate the idea that some people will have more than others.

In primitive groups, envy is so pervasive that no one is allowed to have more than anyone else--they are trapped in a "zero sum" theory of economics, just as are many liberals today.

To naive leftists, a primitive culture may look like an egalitarian paradise, but it is actually a paranoid and envious hell, with everyone fearful of the “evil eye” of his envious neighbor should he acquire more than him. For this reason, primitive groups mindlessly destroy surpluses or engage in sacrifices to their “envious” gods. ...

"If we could somehow eliminate envy from the human genome, there would be almost no reason for the left to exist. They would instantly lose that which animates them, for example, envy masquerading as justice or economic theory. In order to be happy, we must all keep our envy in check, because envy is the opposite of gratitude. Envy does not appreciate what one has, only what one doesn’t have. And our capacity to imagine what we do not have--and that someone else is enjoying it--is literally infinite, as is envy. .."

HERE

271 posted on 04/30/2011 1:43:20 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Matchett-PI

Do Conservatives envy that the left runs the MSM? Can capitalism be Type II error? Is George Bush Sr. a globalist?


272 posted on 04/30/2011 1:57:56 PM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
"Do Conservatives envy that the left runs the MSM?"

No. Classical Liberals (today's "conservatives") view that situation to be a threat to our freedoms.

That's not to say that there aren't big-government types who falsely call themselves "conservatives". Since they covet power (so as to be able to enforce their beliefs / conscience on the rest of us), they most certainly envy the fact that they can't control "the message" like the MSM does. There are lots of them on FR.

"Can capitalism be Type II error?"

Only CRONY capitalism (Interventionism) can. The Spirit of Democratic Capitalism by Michael Novak

"Is George Bush Sr. a globalist?"

To a large extent.

Now I have to run put to a dinner engagement so can't answer any more of your questions.

273 posted on 04/30/2011 3:34:31 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: marbren; dirtboy; airborne
I believe anything is possible, but instead of being paranoid, which I believe is Type I, I have faith in my Lord Jesus Christ so I can live without fear. Also, I believe the Holy Spirit will discern for me what reality is.

Likewise, I am a believer.

However, being a believer doesn't mean that one has to kiss their brains goodbye.

Do I believe that God can do miracles contrary to the laws of nature that He established? Absolutely.

Do I believe in conspiracy theories about man doing things that are contrary to the laws of nature that God established? No.

As for not living in fear, too many of these conspiracy theories breed it and feed on it.

The issue isn't about getting all worked up about some Illuminati type plot to take over the world, of which we can't do anything about, but to make sure we're prepared for the ordinary, run of the mill kinds of things that we're likely to encounter regardless of whether or not there's some nefarious plot to destroy this country.

Essentially, I'm just as likely to have problems with a nature generated tornado as a (hypothetically) man generated one. When it hits, it matters little what the source is. It matters more if I'm prepared either way.

And yes, I also think that the claims about HAARP violate the laws of physics and are not realistic or feasible.

274 posted on 04/30/2011 3:44:27 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
I do not know. I do not have expectations. Disappointment comes from unmet expectations. In my experience faith comes in where common sense and reason end.
275 posted on 04/30/2011 4:14:04 PM PDT by marbren
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To: Matchett-PI
Thank You Matchett-PI it was fascinating again. My thinking is everything in this world will fail. All we will have left is faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ and that is OK this is all it is about and the only thing that matters.
276 posted on 04/30/2011 4:19:02 PM PDT by marbren
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To: metmom

I think the weather FACTS you cite

are fine . . . as far as they go.

I think your ASSUMPTIONS about our level of technology are not as accurate as your facts about the weather.


277 posted on 04/30/2011 9:37:09 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: SaraJohnson

I agree with you rather thoroughly.


278 posted on 04/30/2011 9:38:16 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom

I don’t think you’ve investigated it very serously or extensively.


279 posted on 04/30/2011 9:38:58 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Matchett-PI

WELL PUT.


280 posted on 04/30/2011 9:41:11 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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