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Blaming Black underachievement on underfunding “inner-city” schools doesn’t hold up
coachisright.com ^ | April 26, 2011 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 04/26/2011 8:01:14 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

At the dawn of the Obama era, in anticipation of an increase in their “take” from government, Black civic and religious leaders in Chicago started to chant the familiar phrase “inner city schools are underfunded.”

Given the willingness of Americans to attribute uneven results to uneven fundamentals and the knee jerk support for this premise it gets from the media “underfunding is the cause of underperformance” is automatically accepted as true by most people.

Nationally schools with a predominately Black student body receive 105% of the “White school” baseline while Asians get 107% of what White receive and Hispanics recieve about the same as White students.

By region the story changes dramatically. In the Northeast Blacks get 16% more funding than Whites, Asians receive 12% more funding and Hispanics top all groups with 17% more funding than Whites. In the Southern region, Blacks students get 105% of what White students receive.

What accounts for the lag between Black public school student achievement and their White counterparts is a question for another day.

Nevertheless, the next time you hear the NAACP complain that, “Quality public education for African American and Latino students is persistently threatened as a direct result of inequitable school funding” keep these figures in mind...

(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...


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Some facts to throw in the face of the greedy teachers' unions.
1 posted on 04/26/2011 8:01:17 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

That’s right, throw more money at the problem. That always does the trick. /s

What a bunch of liberal schmucks.


2 posted on 04/26/2011 8:03:01 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: jmaroneps37

Blaming schools in particular doesn’t hold up. It’s cultural. Unfortunately, it’s creeping across all lines in America. Mediocrity has crept into acceptance.


3 posted on 04/26/2011 8:07:30 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Ping


4 posted on 04/26/2011 8:11:24 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Wings-n-Wind

PING FOR LATER


5 posted on 04/26/2011 8:15:58 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: jmaroneps37

There is no correlation between dollars spent and student performance. The issue is a Trojan Horse to force redistribution of funds and avoid dealing with real issues.


6 posted on 04/26/2011 8:16:04 AM PDT by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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To: jmaroneps37

Matters not how much you spend on your sawmill.

You can’t mill good lumber from bad timber.


7 posted on 04/26/2011 8:20:31 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: jmaroneps37

What would do more than funding would be to fire TEACHERS who cannot themselves read, write, and do math at a level we expect for high-school grads.


8 posted on 04/26/2011 8:22:06 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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The biggest mistake in education is the over-estimation and reliance on student-teacher ratios. In Japan, the student-teacher ratio is 60 to 1, and their kids outscore ours by a large margin.

There are some great teachers in our public school system, and some really, really poor ones. We would be better off to figure out a way to have the better ones exposed to more students. But that would mean doing away with the unions now wouldn't it?

9 posted on 04/26/2011 8:26:05 AM PDT by wayoverontheright (The Democratic Party is trying to end "the private sector as we know it".)
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To: edpc

Blaming our socialist education system is more than justified, but you are right to point out that “culture” is a factor. Without radical changes nothing will improve educational outcomes for anyone, including whites.


10 posted on 04/26/2011 8:27:55 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: edpc

“Quality public education for African American and Latino students is persistently threatened as a direct result of inequitable school funding” keep these figures in mind...”

No it isn’t. Quality public education for African American and Latino students is persistently threatened as a direct result of the one question a politician will not ask. “Do you want your daddy to be some crackhead in prison who fathered three kids with three women, or do you want your daddy to be a good Christian with family values?”

The Christian faith is being destroyed by statist ideology and there is no one willing to come to the forefront and confront the left on destroying family values in America.


11 posted on 04/26/2011 8:30:26 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Who is John Galt?)
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To: jmaroneps37

Studing is a whitey thing.


12 posted on 04/26/2011 8:35:42 AM PDT by monocle
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To: PapaBear3625
What would do more than funding would be to fire TEACHERS who cannot themselves read, write, and do math at a level we expect for high-school grads.

Agreed, but even if you sent in the best teachers in the world into these school systems, they would not produce students who exceled because this is a cultural problem. These students do not value education, plain and simple. No amount of spending on education will fix that problem.

13 posted on 04/26/2011 8:37:38 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Grumplestiltskin
You can’t mill good lumber from bad timber.

I disagree that the timber is bad. But I'm certain that if the government nationalized the the mills, the lumber would be bad, and it would be expensive.

14 posted on 04/26/2011 8:45:39 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: jmaroneps37
The opportunity to go to school in this country is promised. They outcome is not. The outcome depends on the student. They have to show up every day, pay attention, do the classroom work and the home work, obey the rules, stay away from drugs and gangs and strive to learn.
The Asians are great at this, and most whites slide into this role easily. Both because of parental involvement and encouragement. Hispanics are growing fast in these skills and will catch whites within a few years.
Blacks seem to be going the other way. As a white man I will bluntly tell anyone that this is not the fault of whites or our government.
First I would like to remind all parents; “like it or not your children are your fault.” You are their first teachers and provide them with the examples of what is right and wrong in life. If you fail do not blame others.
Black society seems to accept black on black violence. How stupid is this.
The black population has to answer many questions for themselves. Don't lay the blame my way, I have nothing to do with it.
15 posted on 04/26/2011 8:49:27 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: oldenuff2no

I think the problem is inner city Parents. On Welfare and Drugs having kids to get more welfare money. Then they send the kids to sell drugs while they are too young for jail.


16 posted on 04/26/2011 9:14:35 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: pnh102
Agreed, but even if you sent in the best teachers in the world into these school systems, they would not produce students who exceled because this is a cultural problem. These students do not value education, plain and simple. No amount of spending on education will fix that problem.

The welfare system provides little incentive for these kids to be interested in academics.

It used to be that if you got an education, you would be better off economically, and that provided an incentive for the kids, and for the parents to pressure the kids to do well.

If the situation was "no education = no job = starvation", then you might see some more interest.

17 posted on 04/26/2011 9:31:17 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: jmaroneps37

Crapola! If $Billions of dollars spent over the last 40 years is underfunding, no wonder the word $trillions doesn’t scare these profligate spenders.


18 posted on 04/26/2011 9:37:41 AM PDT by Cyman
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19 posted on 04/26/2011 10:01:11 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: screaminsunshine
Inner-city society is a culture all unto itself. They have designed, developed and accepted their culture all by themselves. The rest of this country has had nothing to do with it.
You are totally and completely right. It is the parental role models and the complete lack of adequate parenting skills that has led them down the road to a totally dependent, bloodthirsty, violent, and ignorant culture in the inner cities today. Culture is always local and self constructed. If the inmates in the inner city want to live differently then THEY must change their culture. If they are not willing to change or move away then do not blame the rest of us.
20 posted on 04/26/2011 12:43:11 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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