[Kartographer]

FerFal also list this link in the article to a Sarajevo Survival Guide:

http://www.famainternational.com/timeline/content-guide1-f.htm

If you haven’t already I urge you to start getting prepared now. I truely believe that time is growing short very short.

IMHO we will see within the next six months a economic collapse much like that of Argentina’s, which Ferfal has write much about and which there is a excellent documentry about on YouTube here is the link to Part One:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6_i8zuffs

And remember as a armed society and one which contains a much more violent crimial and entitlement minded element our collapse is much more likely to be very violent than Argentina’s was/is. I see places big ‘blue’ cities mostly were what I call “Pocket pogroms” and you better be ready to get out and quick!

For those who would like to get started preparing I have updated my Preparedness Manual and added the following sections:

19. A Highly-Mobility 72 Hour Kit-by Ward Dorrity

55. Step by Step Earthbag Construction-by Dr. Owen Geiger

Thanks to eaker it can be down loaded at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

[Inyo-Mono]

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[piytar]

“My opinion? Unless there’s a real threat to you, leaving your safe, stocked, defensible home, where you know your neighbors, where you have a job and means to support yourself in a complicated economic time, lets say its not the smartest thing to do.”

Absolutely agree. That said, it’s not a bad idea to have a good friend out in the country with land, a well, crops, livestock, and good sight lines just in case. (I’m in Texas, so “guns and ammo” goes without saying in the country...)

[SERE_DOC]

Buy a weapon (code word for a GUN perhaps 2) and if you can get it, ammo.

Become proficient with it.

Soon.

[Celtic Cross]

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[InvisibleChurch]

People drive stupidly when the traffic lights go goofy. The best thing to do during the apocalypse is to sit w a six pack and a case of cigarettes and watch in on tv until the cable goes out.

[mowowie]

Number 1: Buy a gun

Number 2: Buy a Motorcycle

The rest is easier i guess to figure out...

[dagogo redux]

About time someone posts this sort of thing here, and the responses give me hope as well.

Us “preppers” have been right all along. No grid, no gas, mayhem and zombies- my wife and I, and the few families along the inaccessible, dead-end enclave where we live are essentially ready at this point. We’re not bugging out for anywhere. We live or we die here. These are our homes, and most of us are too old to bother running around. We aren’t likely to live too many more years anyway, but what time we have will be here. We’re ready.

[JDoutrider]

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[ronnyquest]

Sheltering in place, where you know people and have the possibility of real support, is preferable to taking yourself and your family into the country, unless the collapse literally comes to your door and drives you out. Unless you live in a city now. Sheltering in place within a city will be akin to having a picnic on an active artillery range.

It is good to have a stocked survival retreat, just in case, if one can afford it and if it is easily reachable when EVERYONE has the idea to get out of the cities at the same time, clogging up the interstates.

This will be the case in most cities; those people really ought to relocate as far from the city as is possible. Mayhem is going to ensue in the cities when it all goes to shit.

If I lived in a city, something that would never happen anyway, I would be moving out RIGHT NOW to a non-urban location, even if it means some hardship in the near term.

[oldenuff2no]

The truth is most of you don't have a clue how to take care of you and yours. I'm from the country, actually low mountains. We live with very little outside support all year, every year. We go to town when we want to not because we need to. We are not ignorant, backwards, or technologically stupid. I pump my water with windmills that I can rebuild myself when ever I need to. We have huge pantries full of veggies we grow and can ourselves. My barns and silos are full of feed for my animals. I have 5 years of wood split and stacked for heating and cooking. I have a ham radio that will be broadcasting long after the cell phones and the internet stops functioning.
My house is built with dual log walls with the space in between filled with insulation and cement. You do not own a firearm that will shoot through those walls. I own a safe full that will cover the cleared fields of fire in all directions. I can get from my house to my barns to the water and wood without ever exposing myself to the outside world.
We have all the conveniences of the outside world, are well educated, and our daily life trains to be totally self sufficient. I have enough solar panels and wind generators to keep the battery bank charged continuously. I have even engineered small turbines that fit inside the stove pipes on my wood stoves that power chargers for the winter months and long cold winter nights.
When the SHTF I will not be sharing or even tolerating outsiders on my property. I will use all force necessary to protect what is mine.
I can be had, killed, but those who finally manage it will be climbing over a lot of bodies to get to me. In the mean time I will be safe, warm and well fed. My big outside dogs and geese will give me ample warning when the morons from the cities get hungry enough to think they can take what is mine. You plan for it but those of us who will survive unharmed already live a life so self control and self dependence. Do not come here or the thousands of places like this. You will not be welcome or tolerated. You have nothing that I want. You have no skill set that I need. I'm ranch and farm raised, a retired ranger/military dog handler, a college trained gunsmith, a very good machinist and farm with teams of mules. I shoot long range comp and the only thing I feel when I pull the trigger is a little recoil.

[FreedomPoster]

Ferfal story ping.

[ATLDiver]

I’m glad I moved out to “the sticks” last year. Knowing your neighbors as well as having a ‘plan’ is invaluable during these times.

All that said, I don’t think we’re to the point where urban dwellers need to ditch everything and get out of dodge. I think any reasonable person would feel more comfortable in a more rural environment than downtown USA but that my $0.02.

One thing I think is important is to think of defense in a tiered approach. IMO, one needs some medium to long-range firearms and enough training/ammo to be effective. Having a little .22lr for small game and shotgun for fowl and HD isn’t a bad idea either.

[familyop]

I agree with FerFal. Don’t even plan to leave your homes only because of the economic decline. Such action would leave you eventually starving, frozen, dead from heatstroke,... Be frugal, become more self-sufficient, and learn to do technical work (like fixing your vehicle for starters).

If Nazis group to attack your city, well, okay, then run for the hills.

[Jim Noble]

I’m already IN the hills.

It’s very nice here. Protected, as they say, by the good Lord and a gun.