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It’s the Social Security Number, Stupid !
The Post & Email ^ | April 14, 2011 | Helen Tansey

Posted on 04/15/2011 4:54:34 AM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: nuconvert

Does anyone know how applications from outside the US are processed?

If Obama was living in Indonesia and his parents wanted to get him a US SSN, do we know how that would be processed and what sort of SSN would result?

Let’s assume it’s legit, and he’s a citizen living outside the US, and needs to apply for his SSN and his parents are going to apply.

What happens and how is the number issued?


41 posted on 04/15/2011 6:49:36 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: all the best

http://www.ssa.gov/online/ss-5fs.pdf

Looks like this is the form for folks overseas who need to apply for an SSN.


42 posted on 04/15/2011 6:53:48 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: CaptainK

I looked it up, and our numbers correspond with the states we were living in at the time.. Oklahoma and Maryland.


43 posted on 04/15/2011 7:00:56 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: sergeantdave

His father had a Master’s Degree in Economics from Harvard.


44 posted on 04/15/2011 7:03:52 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
“a state in which Obama was not living in at the age of 15”

“Article has some problems right off, since Obama wasn’t 15 in 1977”

How can you make this determination? What PROOF do you have of Obama’s (if that is his legal name) age? We haven't seen his “VITAL” records.

On the document displayed, there are three different birth dates. I guess we can rule out 1890, but with three DIFFERENT dates why should we trust ANY of them?

I want absolute PROOF. Not speculation. Not conjecture. Not biased statements by supporters. FACTS, LEGAL DOCUMENTS, VITAL RECORDS, and all documents that are available.

45 posted on 04/15/2011 7:05:10 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

I’m making the same point you are.


46 posted on 04/15/2011 7:08:29 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: ltc8k6

He was living in Hawaii in 1977


47 posted on 04/15/2011 7:09:42 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

If you believe the fake, forged documents, he would have been 15 in the spring of 1977 as the article states.


48 posted on 04/15/2011 7:12:22 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: CaptainK

” Obama’s mother returned to Hawaii in 1972, remaining there until 1977 when she went back to Indonesia to work as an anthropological field worker.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama


49 posted on 04/15/2011 7:12:54 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Sorry, must have missed that


50 posted on 04/15/2011 7:14:27 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: sergeantdave

was he a goatherder ? (BOsr)


51 posted on 04/15/2011 7:20:25 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: nuconvert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham

From 1968 to 1972, Dunham was a co-founder and active member of the Ganesha Volunteers (Indonesian Heritage Society) at the National Museum in Jakarta.[38][43] From 1972 to 1975, Dunham was crafts instructor (in weaving, batik, and dye) at the Bishop Museum in Honolulu.[38]

Dunham then had a career in rural development, championing women’s work and microcredit for the world’s poor and worked with leaders from organizations supporting Indonesian human rights, women's rights, and grass-roots development.[31]

In March 1977, Dunham, under the supervision of agricultural economics professor Leon A. Mears, developed and taught a short lecture course at the Faculty of Economics of the University of Indonesia (FEUI) in Jakarta for staff members of BAPPENAS (Badan Perencanaan Pembangunan Nasional)—the Indonesian National Development Planning Agency.[38]

From June 1977 through September 1978, Dunham carried out research on village industries in the Daerah Istimewa Yogyakarta (DIY)—the Yogyakarta Special Region within Central Java in Indonesia under a student grant from the East-West Center.[44] As a weaver herself, Dunham was interested in village industries, and moved to Yogyarkarta City, the center of Javanese handicrafts.[39][45]

In May and June 1978, Dunham was a short-term consultant in the office of the International Labour Organization (ILO) in Jakarta, writing recommendations on village industries and other non-agricultural enterprises for the Indonesian government's third five-year development plan (REPELITA III).[38][44]

From October 1978 to December 1980, Dunham was a rural industries consultant in Central Java on the Indonesian Ministry of Industry's Provincial Development Program (PDP I), funded by USAID in Jakarta and implemented through Development Alternatives, Inc. (DAI).[38][44]

From January 1981 to November 1984, Dunham was the program officer for women and employment in the Ford Foundation's Southeast Asia regional office in Jakarta.[38][44] While at the Ford Foundation, she developed a model of microfinance which is now the standard in Indonesia, a country that is a world leader in micro-credit systems.[46] Peter Geithner, father of Tim Geithner (who later became U.S. Secretary of the Treasury in her son's administration), was head of the foundation's Asia grant-making at that time.[47]

52 posted on 04/15/2011 7:36:55 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: nuconvert

Dunham completed her coursework at the University of Hawaii for a M.A. in anthropology in December 1974, [5] and after three years in Hawaii, Dunham returned to Indonesia in 1975 to do anthropological field work, accompanied by her daughter Maya.[38][39] Her son chose not to go with them back to Indonesia, preferring to finish high school at Punahou School in Honolulu while living with his grandparents.[40] Lolo Soetoro and Dunham divorced on November 5, 1980; Lolo Soetoro married Erna Kustina in 1980 and had two children, a son, Yusuf Aji Soetoro (born 1981) and daughter, Rahayu Nurmaida Soetoro (born 1987). Lolo Soetoro died, age 52, on March 2, 1987 of liver failure.[41]


53 posted on 04/15/2011 7:43:59 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK

Well, that’s Wiki for ya. lol. Between that & Obama, who the heck knows WHAT the truth is.


54 posted on 04/15/2011 7:46:32 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: CaptainK

So, it depends on which Wiki entry you want to believe. lol.
Which one has Obama’s backing? Whichever it is, I’ll take the other one.


55 posted on 04/15/2011 7:48:43 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: wrench

How did you get yours? Were you on a military base or some similar place when you (or your parents) applied?


56 posted on 04/15/2011 8:16:19 AM PDT by livius
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To: InterceptPoint

That link works fine for me but better to give Helen the traffic, it’s her piece.


57 posted on 04/15/2011 8:27:32 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: nuconvert

That’s fine. His mother was in Indonesia and may be the one who applied for him.

Who knows?

We would need solid proof of things, and we just don’t have it. We have some stuff that looks odd, and that’s about it.
Nothing really solid.


58 posted on 04/15/2011 8:33:08 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: nuconvert

Add to the fact those Durhams seem to be hard to keep track of and are always changing their story.


59 posted on 04/15/2011 9:55:29 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: RobinMasters
If Barack Obama was indeed born in HI as is claimed, he already had a SSN. He would have no need for requesting (or having it requested for him) a SSN when he was 15/16 years of age because he already would have one at birth, right? And having more than one SSN is illegal if I'm not mistaken. Maybe Obama is not guilty of anything here, but using more than one SSN is usually a sign of some kind of fraud taking place. Perhaps family members were committing fraud using this SSN, I'm not sure. But if it comes to pass that the numerous other SSN's that have popped up also are associated with Obama, then it would seem he is in on the fraud, as well.
60 posted on 04/15/2011 10:31:29 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Redistribution = theft.)
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