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Ron Paul antes up on abortion
POLITICO.COM ^ | 12 APRIL 2011 | ANDY BARR

Posted on 04/12/2011 7:24:16 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Ron Paul on Monday created some distance between himself and his fellow libertarians on abortion, telling a gathering of social conservatives in Iowa that protecting the unborn is integral to his philosophy. Continue Reading

Speaking for the Iowa Family Leader's presidential lecture series in Sioux City, Paul said that he is troubled when he hears libertarians advocate for abortion rights. Describing conversations with supporters, the Texas congressman and presidential hopeful said he often here a “libertarian type of argument” along the lines of “it’s the woman’s body. She can do whatever she wants. She can have an abortion.”

“I don’t like them to use that argument – that believing in liberty means you can kill the unborn,” Paul said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52941.html#ixzz1JMip7rAu

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: abortion; flipflop; mitt2; paul; prolife; ronpaul
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1 posted on 04/12/2011 7:24:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Good for him. He’d actually know better than most, as an obstetrics and gynaecology specialist.


2 posted on 04/12/2011 7:27:18 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: OldNewYork
Good for him is right. And you gotta love that crack Politico editorial staff:

the Texas congressman and presidential hopeful said he often here a “libertarian type of argument”

How often does he "here" this argument????

3 posted on 04/12/2011 7:31:25 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Libertarians = Liberal Light

Being against the wholesale murder of the unborn should be a part of the psyche of anyone calling themselves a Christian.

As born and raised Catholic, I never miss a opportunity to put the “cafeteria” liberal Catholics to task. How can you call yourself a Catholic, or a Christian for that matter, if you support a woman’s right to “choice”. I have heard rationalizations from A to Z and I raise the BS flag on all of them. I love to her them dance around that pesky Sixth Commandment.


4 posted on 04/12/2011 7:34:15 PM PDT by NWFLConservative
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To: NWFLConservative

Abortion. Legalized murder of the unborn baby.


5 posted on 04/12/2011 7:44:26 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Pretty amazing coming from a Libertarian’s mouth.

Most of them think killing your child is ok because you get to exercise freedom while doing it.


6 posted on 04/12/2011 7:45:00 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Hear’s too only relying on spell-check and never proof-reading! Then you’d have to read what you’ve written while looking it over for errors and maybe think about what you’re saying. You no?

I thought I’d point out the good in Ron Paul before his hater-group sees this thread and condemns him to be burnt at the stake.


7 posted on 04/12/2011 7:46:05 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: NWFLConservative

I’ve heard it preached that the Sixth Commandment would be better translated “murder”. I mean, on the very next page Moses orders a man killed for violating the law, so based on that, it can’t mean simple “kill”. What do you think?

And then of course the Israelites enter into Canaan with God’s blessing, with plenty of killings going on.

And of course, killing a helpless baby while in the sanctity of their mother’s womb would be murder.


8 posted on 04/12/2011 8:02:48 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: OldNewYork

I’m not seeing a strawlike group descend as you say.

How strange! Maybe the group who you are thinking of were giving thoughtful judgements of the man and his positions? Judgements which don’t apply on this thread, because he is right on this?


9 posted on 04/12/2011 8:06:22 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Good for Ron Paul. Now, I wish he would come out and say that protection the traditional family is integral to his political philosophy as well.


10 posted on 04/12/2011 8:06:22 PM PDT by Antoninus (Fight the homosexual agenda. Support marriage -- www.nationformarriage.org)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

There are times when killing the enemy is necessary, if you are doing God’s work in the process. If not, I am totally f’d, because I have punched more than my share of ‘allah tickets’ in 4 combat tours to Iraq.

There can be no denying that killing the innocent is murder. And save for original sin, there can be no one on this earth more innocent than one of God’s children in the womb.


11 posted on 04/12/2011 8:14:36 PM PDT by NWFLConservative
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

“I’m not seeing a strawlike group descend as you say.

How strange! Maybe the group who you are thinking of were giving thoughtful judgements of the man and his positions? Judgements which don’t apply on this thread, because he is right on this?”

I can’t imagine why you’d feel you were being falsely invoked if that were the case.


12 posted on 04/12/2011 8:25:39 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

As an ol’fart that read Heinlein {as a kid} & grew up in a catholic/jewish neighborhood; I can sympathize with Mr. Paul.

It is FAR more logical to condemn the use of Government/Tax Dollars FOR abortion than to BAN all abortions.


13 posted on 04/12/2011 8:30:10 PM PDT by PizzaDriver ( on)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Libertarians, what about the liberty of the unborn child?


14 posted on 04/12/2011 9:03:39 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Libertarians, what about the liberty of the unborn child?


15 posted on 04/12/2011 9:03:56 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I am not a political supporter of Ron Paul but I appreciate his consistent and logical application of Libertarianism to the rights of the unborn.


16 posted on 04/12/2011 10:03:02 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Reddy

“Pretty amazing coming from a Libertarian’s mouth.”

It is consistent as long as the unborn child is considered an individual person.

Since these children have their own DNA and are even a different sex than their mother half the time, it is an obviously consistent position to hold.

But since most Libertarians seem to be total liberals who just want more liberty to sin coupled with strict fiscal conservatism, the humanity of the unborn is of no consequence to them.


17 posted on 04/12/2011 10:08:09 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

It is properly translated “murder,” the same Bible gives detailed descriptions, for example, for killing various animals, which is obviously not a sin since Israel was repeatedly told to do it.

Actually it was a sin NOT to sacrifice them.

Also there are instances of orders for people to be killed in various wars; God obviously does not consider this murder, since He orders it, and He never orders us to sin.


18 posted on 04/12/2011 10:10:38 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Has he repudiated his long-held states’ rights trumps the unalienable right to life position?


19 posted on 04/12/2011 10:11:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The best argument against...democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter - Churchill)
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To: NWFLConservative

You are not f’d, if you read your Old Testament you will find God gives very concrete instructions to kill during wars.

Of course we don’t use that to indiscriminately kill anyone we disagree with. However, it is perfectly apparent that killing in a just war is not a sin; God would not have ordered it done if so.


20 posted on 04/12/2011 10:15:13 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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