Donald Trump is Winning Me Over... and Quick

Reaganite Republican ^ | April 12, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

"I don't hear (Team Obama) talking about Mr Pawlenty 

or anybody else... they're only talking about Trump"

Donald Trump is already claiming to be the one Barack Obama fears the most, and based upon the telling cheap shot that 
David Plouffe -of DNC Troll Patrol fame- took last weekend on Face the Nation... he may be right.

Trump's people are now investigating Obama's well-shrouded background, employing "great resources... looking into it very seriously". Like the seasoned competitor and showman that he is, The Donald also makes sure to let loose a daily round or two himself to keep that Trump name on the front pages whilst he chips away steadily at the false Obama narrative...

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Recent noteworthy quotes:

"I am very conservative"

"I'm Barack Obama's worst nightmare"

"I am a Christian... I believe in God"

"I think the Bible is, certainly, it is THE book"

"China is running away with our jobs, they're just doing a number on us like never before."

"Libya! a total mess- I mean, the man is doing a terrible job as president"

"(Obama) has no control over OPEC because they don't respect him"

"You're going to see your gasoline for your car be six, seven, 
and eight dollars a gallon very soon"

"Just show us the (Obama long-form BC) proof"

"I like how now (Obama) says 'we have to work on the budget'- where the heck has he been for the last two years?"

"Here's a guy who's never done a deal in his life, except with Tony Rezko..."

"His grandmother said very clearly he was born in Kenya... 
until all the handlers went crazy"

"...why is his family arguing over which hospital he was born in? 
They don't even know..."

"Let the ObamaCare case go straight to the Supreme Court"

"The last person they want to run against is me... and I know that from a fact, from people who are very close to Obama"

"I will tell you this: the country's not respected... it's poorly run... we're a laughing stock throughout the world..."

"There are a lot of things we can do to reduce that deficit... 
and I mean in a hurry"

"I would love to take (Obama) on"

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Trump 2012...?

Truth be told, the knee-jerk reaction was negative... then I started thinking: I want a real fighter to rip into Obama hard while also a true conservative we can depend on to swing a mean budget axe... willing to go on the offensive to unseat this heinous regime in the most aggressive fashion possible.  Otherwise, the unholy Prog/MSM alliance will simply chew us up... much as they've already done to Palin, sadly.

But it's not just the debt, and of all our numerous simultaneous crises the economy is the one likely to make or break the 2012 election, barring a terrorist attack or other momentous event. 

Who do we have running (or thinking about it) that possesses the acumen for jump-starting entrepreneurs and small business? We can't affford to fail this time, the country's on the financial ropes. Besides Donald Trump, maybe Mitt Romney... but I'd take Trump over him or any similar RINO in a New York minute- wouldn't you? 

Clearly Trump would fight like a tiger... and have fun doing it, a key to success in any endeavor.  Add to that essential quality his business background, powerful name recognition, winning take-no-prisoners style and true conservative platform (below)... I'm going to give the guy a real serious look... if he can beat Obama, I can't say I'd have any real issues with a Trump presidency.

He also has vast experience dealing with politicians of all stripes -both domestic and international- and I doubt any personal baggage 3x married Trump brings will make a difference this time- the country is scared, and seeks a firm hand bringing practical solutions stat.

Trump has stated he'll "probably" run as an independent if denied the GOP nomination... so we all better get used to the idea of a Trump 2012 campaign- seems a near certainty.

The balance of any Trump platform might be expected to look a little something like this, based on prior statements...
more conservative than expected? That was my impression:

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• Pro-life

• Pro-gun

• Full repeal of ObamaCare

• Reduced foreign aid

•  Supports a fair trade policy and believes generally that the People's Republic of China should be considered more of an adversarial competitor, subjected to significant import tariffs as a response to China's currency policy in order to help balance the U.S. budget.

• Believes the U.S. should disengage in Iraq and Afghanistan

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Great WSJ interview/more at Reaganite Republican


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Weasel Zippers   Real Clear Politics   Wikipedia   BusinessInsider.com
Drudge Report   Politico   BirtherReport.com

[RockinRight]

I love Cain. If he’s in the race when I vote he’ll get my primary vote.

If not, it’ll be Trump (if he’s in), and if Trump’s not in...I’ll write in someone, or reluctantly vote for Sarah.

[RockinRight]

Ding ding ding ding!

You’re NOT fired.

[tsowellfan]

I’m still waiting for Alan Keyes

[Red Steel]

If the Republicans promote a weak candidate, I'd seriously consider a 3rd party Trump because I believe he could win and he'd be a better choice that dumb or dumber.

Interesting times...

Right. If the Repubs put up a yawner like McCain who was not serious in winning, chances of losing greatly increase.

[RockinRight]

The thing is, although I don’t think it would happen (see post 75), Trump is the one guy who probably COULD win as an independent.

[Pan_Yan]

1999 called, they want their quotes back.

If you want to discount ten year old quotes then vote for Romney. He's been a conservative for years now, just ask him.

[r9etb]

I'm not a Trump guy but he is undeniably smart and he has been doing some polling. He's reeling in the conservative base by doing just enough policy wise to make him 'acceptable'.

I believe you're right -- at least for a segment of the "conservative" base. And the fact that he's getting traction from it, speaks volumes about the intellectual capacity of that portion of the "conservative" base. He's selling something (cynically, I think), and they're buying.

He's taking populist positions ....

And that, I think, points to where Trump's support is really coming from. What you're calling a "conservative" base, seems to be much more a populist sort of movement than a conservative one. Politically and in mindset, I think Trump's target audience has a lot in common with the group that went for Perot back in '92.

I suspect, too, that Trump is drawing support from same demographic that both Palin and Huckabee draw from. It's just that his media footprint is so much larger, and so much better-established (over decades) that he can take his schtick to a broader audience.

It's fun to watch, I admit ... but it's not the sort of thing that will get him nominated, much less elected.

[runninglips]

I agree with you assessment, the idea of running as a third party candidate, is thrown out there by him to emphasize his belief that his views are more important than the party. IMO, that is a positive. I absolutely HATE the Republican AND Democrat parties. Strict adherence to party discipline is why people that may believe in the same philosophy, will fight on an issue, to the death, even though they would flip votes if their guy were pushing it.

[r9etb]

yawn.

[ScottinVA]

No, thanks. He’s not winning me over. Ever.

[Red Steel]

Yawn.

[ScottinVA]

Trump says he is in it to win.

If he goes indie, he's not in it to win, unless handing the election to Obama is considered a "win."

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>>Trump FWIW started saying this last year, not in February.

February 2011 or last year, BFD! At this point, Trump will say anything. FWIW --- and just for laughs --- lets see you post Trump's sourced quote from last year where he stated, I am pro-life. Someone told me last week it was several years ago that Trump had his come to Jesus moment. Obviously, you'll believe anything Trump says.

>>>>>And honestly, the abortion issue, while important, is not going to decide this election.

That goes triple for the BC issue.

Truth is, Trump could never get pro-life conservatives and traditionalists to support him. Evangelicals will not even consider him. Since pro-life forces are a majority in the GOP, I doubt Trump could win the primary nomination.

Trump's last minute epiphany can not be taken seriously by rational folks.

[runninglips]

I foresee debates in which the Republican candidates, to put space between Trump and themselves, will actually attack him for his stand on the BC issue. Triangulate between Trump and 0, lose the base.

An often repeated myth, Perot cost Bush the election. The exit polls showed that the SECOND CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT IN 1992 WAS BILL CLINTON. If Perot is not in the race, Clinton wins with a larger edge. Look it up, it doesn't fit the narrative that the parties want you to follow, but it is true. What part of the R's and D's are just the left and right wings of a Socialist bird doesn't anyone understand?

True, the TEA party is attempting to steer the party to a Constitutional stance, but the R's are still miles away.

[tsowellfan]

Oh.. it’s you.

I was in another thread sticking up for Sarah Palin while you go around bashing fellow republicans.

“Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican. It’s a rule I followed during that campaign and have ever since.” Ronald Reagan’s Eleventh Commandment

[Reaganite Republican]

Not really- but I’ll tell you one thing, once you remove the RINOs from the GOP field, there’s not many there who can withstand the withering attacks on the way from the Left.

Trump can- and he’s fiscally conservative enough to fix the country. I actually believe he offers the best ideas and enthusiasm on economy/deficit reduction I’ve heard... and other real conservatives I like, such as Palin and Bachmann, don’t have any resume in business whatsover.

If Trump can win, he is a decent conservative candidate in my book, Pawlenty will get killed, no Huckster, Newt no way... who’s left?

Go get em Trump

[ScottinVA]

Pro-life (Even with his endorsement of pro-death Hillary in 2008?)

Pro-gun (Nope. On record as supporting a ban on "assault rifles -- VERY open to interpretation -- along with waiting periods.

Full repeal of ObamaCare (This is the most amazing one. He's on record as supporting universal health care)

Reduced foreign aid (To whom? Gonna screw over Israel in the process?)

Supports a fair trade policy and believes generally that the People's Republic of China should be considered more of an adversarial competitor, subjected to significant import tariffs as a response to China's currency policy in order to help balance the U.S. budget. (Yeah, that'll go over well with the country that holds much of our debt)

Believes the U.S. should disengage in Iraq and Afghanistan (Just surrender? What's the disengagement PLAN?)

[Exit148]

When Trump first posed the ‘birth’ question, I thought “This is going to be good”! I never thought it would really grow as much as it has.

But he has caught the attention of the entire country, and while doing so has gone beyond his first challenge and widened the attack on O. Also — while doing so, he has explained where he stands on issues that really gave me pause. There was a good brain at work here, and he does it with a manner of confidence and without PC BS.

I’m watching him with great interest now, especially if the Arizona Birther Bill goes thru.

[runninglips]

So the scenario where Trump is a viable independent candidate for president, with Obama as the Democrat nominee, is not possible.

Good analysis, an logical too.

[ScottinVA]

In terms of background and behavior, he's much more comparable to somebody like Ross Perot.

And even THAT is a stretch for Trump. IIRC, Perot, for all his faults, didn't play chameleon to suit the week.