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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks
This memory of Virginia Goeldner has zero evidentiary value from an investigative standpoint and would not be admissible in any court.

Nothing about Zero has been admitted in any court. Yet.

And doesn't investigating mean following leads? Not rejecting everything or anything that isn't iron clad evidence that will be useful in court. I've been on enough grand juries to know that not everything that is useful in an investigation can be used as evidence in court. There's a lot of background investigating that has to be done to find such evidence.

1,466 posted on 04/26/2011 6:47:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
“And doesn't investigating mean following leads?”

It also means being careful not to overstate your evidence.

Your legal experience means you know how important that is, and you know that hearsay and poor memory are not reliable evidence and must be corroborated.

It means keeping speculation separate from corroborated evidence from multiple sources.

It means not prematurely or improperly rejecting widely corroborated claims, such as the claim that SAD was Barry's mom, which have not been disproved with any solid evidence.

Obama has been backed into a corner even by CNN in HI because constitutionalist investigators kept peeling back the onion with corroborated facts after weeding through many claims, hearsay and speculation that proved false.

A new national awareness, even on CNN, is growing that Obama’s long form legally should be in the HI vault and that Obama himself can request it using a FOIA request.

The world is looking to constitutionalist sites like Free Republic to try to understand the difference between what has been proved, what is speculated to be possible, what is likely, what is rumor, what is conspiracy theory, and what has no support.

Dropping dialog and event framing from Ayers and Obama's Dreams repeatedly into comments and claiming they provide factual support for any claim or speculation about Barry, SAD and BHO Sr. is recklessly misleading an damaging to the credibility of FR as a source for truth-seeking constitutionalists.

1,471 posted on 04/26/2011 7:12:14 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: little jeremiah
I've been on enough grand juries to know that not everything that is useful in an investigation can be used as evidence in court.

I've been in on enough hearings to know that people will blatantly lie and the judges will buy it lock, stock, and barrel despite concrete evidence. I don't hold out much hope in any of this getting to a judge, crooked or otherwise.

1,647 posted on 04/27/2011 7:18:59 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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