Cloward-Piven from the Right

Western Hero ^ | 9 April 2011 | Silverfiddle

[Silverfiddle]

Angry anti-GOP mobs are rampaging across the internet, screaming that this budget deal is the worst betrayal in US history, right up there with Nixon signing the Paris Peace Accords, The Compromise of 1877, and Art Modell's betrayal of the city of Cleveland


We Have Not Yet Begun to Fight

How would these critics of Boehner and the GOP have reacted after the battle of Lexington that began the Revolutionary War?  Would they have gone home in defeat because there were still British left standing?  This is just an early skirmish in a long war to reshape the federal government.  We still have the debt ceiling fight coming up in May.

Republicans wrapped up a deal that takes us through 2011 while cutting $38 billion, and thank God for that.  It folds the tents on this nickle-dime DC circus sideshow (they were arguing over less than 1% in cuts) and clears the field for debate on Paul Ryan's long-term strategy for cutting Trillions from the federal government, and enacting fundamental reforms.

Don't be a Sore Winner
For reasons unfathomable, some on the right are angry with Boehner.  I'd like for someone to explain how a government shutdown would have helped the GOP, who the American people still view with mistrust.  Here is what he and the GOP did, despite Democrat control of the Senate, the White House and the news media:

The history of offers on this bill goes something like this. Democrats first offered no cuts, then $4 billion, then $6.5 billion, then $33 billion, then settled at $38.5 billion.  (Fox News)

The spending cuts amount to $78.5 billion below what Mr. Obama had requested for 2011. (Washington Times)

 "...an estimated $38 billion in reductions — represented the “largest real dollar spending cut in American history.” (NY Times)

With the DC kabuki agitprop out of the way, Paul Ryan can now conduct an adult conversation based upon stark facts.  This is harsh terrain for unserious liberals who rely on the usual freakshow histrionics.  Americans are ready for a serious debate on ending our profigate ways, and the Republicans are the only ones discussing it seriously.

Do you want to reform government spending, or do you just want to burn the damned thing down?

It's a serious question, and if your answer is the latter, you are in the camp of the libertines who turned the French Revolution into a violent rampage that forever knocked that nation off of her powerful and glorious perch.  Such a sentiment also puts you firmly outside the camp of the founding fathers.  They had righteous anger, but they channeled it into constructive projects that built the greatest nation in the history of the world.

By clamoring for a shutdown, we feed into the left's stereotypes that we are a rabble of anarchists with torches and pitchforks clamoring to burn down government.  The broad middle does not respond well to such wild displays.  Ask "Pitchfork Pat" Buchanan, the latest in a long line of failed American populists.

Fiscal conservatives on Capitol Hill need the support of patriotic Americans who follow the example of our original revolutionary patriots.  Screaming libertines and bloody guillotines provide propaganda fodder for the leftwing statists struggling to preserve the status quo, and end up working against government reformers like Paul Ryan and Tom Coburn.

Tea Party Activists Give Boehner Nod of Approval
Lefty Ezra Klein is all Pouty
Fox News - Who Won the Shutdown?
Salon - Boehner Won
WaPo - Boehner Gets $39 Billion, Reid Gets Nothing

[Jim Noble]

“Republicans wrapped up a deal that takes us through 2011 while cutting $38 billion, and thank God for that”

Let me understand.

Do you believe that USG is going to spend $38 billion LESS in FY 2011 than in FY 2010? 

[Silverfiddle]

Die-hard conservatives thought that if I couldn't get everything I asked for, I should jump off the cliff with the flag flying-go down in flames. No, if I can get 70 or 80 percent of what it is I'm trying to get ... I'll take that and then continue to try to get the rest in the future. -- Ronald Reagan

[SteamShovel]

The next card is the Debt Ceiling. How do you think the screenplay is set up?

Choke. The RATS are confident they can handle us now because we don't go for the kill. By that, we set up a more painful consequence at a later date.

It's like anything painful in life. If you keep "dealing with it later", when later does finally come the pain is many times worse than if you had just dealt with the problem earlier.

[Silverfiddle]

So I ask you again, Bigheadfred, who do you shoot first?

[Silverfiddle]

Do you believe that USG is going to spend $38 billion LESS in FY 2011 than in FY 2010?

No. There's so much off-budget chicanery it's impossible to get an honest accounting. I'm just glad the .5% freakshow is over so we can get on to debating real reform that involved trillions, not a few billions.

[Silverfiddle]

The RATS are confident they can handle us now because we don't go for the kill.

How could the GOP have went in "for the kill?" Your strategery assumes the GOP would have won in a government shutdown. Please explain how that happens? The Democrats wanted this shutdown soap opera drama because it distracts from addressing the real issues. They start a big hissy fight over a few billions when we need to be discussing slashing trillions. GOP won. Dems lost.

[SteamShovel]

They start a big hissy fight over a few billions when we need to be discussing slashing trillions.

This will never stop. You need to press them...HARD! Choking for $38B will never get you to $T's. At some point you have to go all the way if you ever want to reach the goal.

[Sister_T]

Great post and an idea way passed its time and desperately needed! If the president can have term limits, why can’t these Congress critters?

[MsLady]

I’m in total 100% agreement with all of your points. I think we the people haven’t made ourselves clear enough. But, just wait until 2012, you ain’t seen nothin yet.

[xjcsa]

He’s just here to pimp his blog.

Right, which is why he posted the whole piece instead of a one-sentence excerpt.

[Silverfiddle]

He’s just here to pimp his blog. Right, which is why he posted the whole piece instead of a one-sentence excerpt.

Thanks! Your tagline fits

[bigheadfred]

Well, here is the deal.

The industrial base in this country is gone.

There are no jobs.

A great number of people rely on govt. subsidies, whether it be military, social security, medicaid, food stamps, AFDC, jobs, pensions, what have you.

The only thing we have accomplished in Afghanistan is to improve their ability to produce opium.

I never have figured out what it is we owe the Iraqi’s. No one seems to want to tell me.

And the illegals.

Congress throws some duct tape, baling wire, and spray paint on a broken down wagon, wheel it out, and say LOOK, WE FIXED YOUR WAGON! Yes, yes, they did.

Maybe we need to tell the Iraqi’s they owe us x trillion dollars, and we start taking it back in oil at the price we set, i.e., free.

We take over the opium trade and put billions back in the bank.

We start shipping all illegals, I don’t care where they are from, back to Mexico.

Militarize our borders. Don’t let them back in.

Cut unfunded public employee pensions off at the knees.

Cut off social security payments to lazy, lying bastards, starting with my worthless BIL. And the guy in Boulder who is getting full benefits cause the air pollution in Boulder, Boulder???, is causing them headaches.

The only military involvement we should have in Iraq is to protect OUR oil wells. The same with OUR poppy fields in Afghanistan.

GE needs to actually PAY their taxes. And everybody else, too.

We have our own insurgency in this country in the form of street gangs. If we are gonna shoot someone, round up those little bastards and start there.

Everything worth talking about has been TALKED TO DEATH.

All the people in this country need to put down their ME MOTHERF**IING FIRST attitudes, roll up their sleeves, and actually fix this country.

The ones unwilling to do that, yeah, let’s shoot them too.

But I’m just an ignorant farm boy from Idaho.

So what the hell do I know?

[JudgemAll]

Who says a shutdown would have occured? Zero and dims need the politics and good face more than we do. The Rinos strike bleeding heart for dims stupid again... mama’s boyz losers who will get respect from no legit mother and no illegit prostitute.

[Venturer]

More like a surrender than a skirmish.

[decimon]

But I’m just an ignorant farm boy from Idaho.

So what the hell do I know?

Potatoes.

[bigheadfred]

Better than squat. But I can still learn. You’d vote for me, wouldn’t ya?

[decimon]

You’d vote for me, wouldn’t ya?

Ooh!...ooh!...make me a czar and I will.

[runninglips]

Paul Ryan's long-term strategy for cutting Trillions from the federal government, and enacting fundamental reforms.

Come on, this is propaganda straight from the Dems playbook. Ryan is proposing a cut in the proposed increase of Trillions of dollars. Spending will go up substantially, but so will the National debt. Limbaugh has taught this from day one, Libs call a cut in the increase of taxes, a tax cut. They call a cut in the increase of debt, a predictor of future deaths of the children and the poor. Ryan is following the Liberal playbook, saying he is cutting, but never getting near balance, or in a position to begin to payback debt.

[runninglips]

This battle was not an early skirmish, it was a late battle at a time when our country's very economic existence is at stake. It was time for the "Hail Mary" for Victory, not fighting to not lose.

Just because it was so well said that it needed printing again......WELL DONE.

[bigheadfred]

(waves magic wand) POOF! You’re a CZAR! Now all all I have to do is figure out, exactly, czar of what. Got any suggestions? Got ANY qualifications? Oh, wait... ;-))