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To: Kartographer
I was pondering the water issue yesterday. I live in an area where Summer temps are in the 90’s and Winter is often a below freezing for extended periods. I have plenty of water in the well, getting it out requires energy. I also have a large amount of water in 55 gallon drums (food grade) that is frozen solid for three months every year. I lose 1 or 2 barrels due to the cold every year.

I do not have room inside anywhere for storing six months of water (even just drinking water) for the four people I need to support. I currently have decided on utilizing a 24 volt pump, solar collectors and batteries for pumping from the well. I also will be installing a GE RO system in a frame that is portable with it's own charging system and pump. Problem with RO’s is they waste a lot of water, If you are on a stream or other large body of water no big deal. Here in the desert it is often imprudent to waste even scummy water.

Lastly I have several pumps that can be powered from a PTO on a tractor and have them ready to go on short notice; but again with the energy problem.

4 posted on 04/06/2011 5:40:05 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

Freeze dried water ?


6 posted on 04/06/2011 5:45:38 AM PDT by maine yankee
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To: mad_as_he$$

I think your solar solution for your pump is a good one.
To be electrically efficient, a DC 12 or 24V would be preferable so that you don’t have loss through your inverter.

If you want to get a bit exotic and experimental on your power source, look into biomass gasification. These things will run a gasoline generator on wood and waste.

http://taylor.ifas.ufl.edu/documents/Handbook_of_Biomass_Downdraft_Gasifier_Engine_Systems.pdf


9 posted on 04/06/2011 5:48:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You might consider one of these:Sandbag Cistern

http://earthbagplans.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/earthbag-cistern/


10 posted on 04/06/2011 5:49:29 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: mad_as_he$$

” a PTO on a tractor and have them ready to go on short notice; but again with the energy problem. “

My neighbor and I are refurbishing a 1948 Farmall tractor that is made to run on virtually any flammable liquid - we have a copy of the original manual with instructions on ‘alternate fuel’ operations...

Doesn’t ‘cure’ the “energy problem”, but gives us a lot of flexibility for finding solutions....


14 posted on 04/06/2011 5:56:39 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“...I do not have room inside anywhere for storing six months of water (even just drinking water) for the four people I need to support. I currently have decided on utilizing a 24 volt pump, solar collectors and batteries for pumping from the well.”

There must be hand pumps available for pumping water from wells. Does anyone know of a supplier where I can buy one?


15 posted on 04/06/2011 5:58:39 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: mad_as_he$$

What about a back up hand pump? If things really get bad, you might not be able to count on getting replacement parts.


77 posted on 04/06/2011 10:13:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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