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To everyone on this thread...

3 years ago his topic started comin up. It was during the primary season. I came to be familiar with a few people who felt as I did that
Something was real rotten about Obama. We were the first birthers. I jumped into the fray because I was born in Hawaii 8 years and 3 days after Barry. I had access to HDOH and a willingness to use it.

I am proud to say that many of those same people I met then are still here and still contributing to the discussion. I am so proud of you guys and gals!!!

Today, I see these threads, and I am proud to say that there are so MANY new names to me! I almost feel like a stranger!! That is AWESOME! it means we have succeeded in getting people to listen and to think about what we have been discussing!!!!

I just wanted to say I am grateful! This has been a long 3 years, and this burden isn't light or easy to carry. I am so glad there are
More here now to take some of the load.

Thanks all of you! You give me hope for the future!

Danae

I have been looking at the pdf copy of the birth announcements posted by Butterdezillion yesterday. She has done brilliant work - and it's clear that there are a number of discrepancies here: 1) The online images of the Honolulu Advertiser posted in 2008 by two individuals seem to be identical, even though they claim two different sources (Hawaii State Library, and Honolulu Advertiser). More telling, the actual microfilm of that day's birth announcements at the Hawaii State Library itself is old and lined, unlike the almost pristine copy of the online images. Question - Where did these online images come from, if not from the Hawaii State Library ?

2) Also in 2008, virtually identical images of the announcements in the Star Bulletin were posted online, with the source again claimed to be the Hawaii State Library. These Star Bulletin images listed identical births to the Honolulu Advertiser. The actual Star Bulletin microfilm at the Hawaii State Library for that day's birth announcements is longer with 26 additional birth announcements. Clearly, the online Star Bulletin images were cropped/fixed to appear identical with those of the Advertiser. Question - Why would the Star Bulletin have 26 more birth announcements than the Advertiser if the source is the Vital Records Office ? Suppose the source of the birth announcements also include mere phone calls by relatives to the Hawaii newspapers ?

It gets very interesting. Clearly, there are several discrepancies with these announcements which would rule them out as a source of primary evidence for Obama's birth. Only a fool like O'Reilly would rely on these announcements.

Thanks to ButterD for good work done.

This has been a long 3 years, and this burden isn't light or easy to carry.

Our opponents strategy has been to concede nothing and hope that we will get frustrated, tired and eventually give up while they run out the clock. I thought that Obama would either provide valid proof that showed he was a Natural Born Citizen or bow out of the race. I was wrong. It could have been for a number of reasons.

McCain had his own difficulties regarding his Natural Born status since his Birth Certificate shows that he was born at Colon Hospital, City of Colon, Republic of Panama which was not on the US Military Base, not in a US Territory and was outside the official “Panama Canal Zone” and could in no way be considered US soil. There are valid legal questions concerning the actual Natural Born status of children of US Service Members born abroad... but to my knowledge this has never been definitively resolved. The US Senate passed a resolution declaring McCain to be Natural Born Citizen, but that was a political move not a legal ruling with any real meaning.

At some point was there a backroom political “wink, wink, say no more” deal reached between top Republican and Democrat leadership and each side agreed not to make Natural Born Citizenship an issue in the race? If so this could help explain why top Republican leadership have declined to pursue this issue. They may have willingly participated in undermining the US Constitution and found themselves duped into this absurd situation.