Posted on 03/22/2011 1:23:41 PM PDT by STARWISE
While out promoting my new book, “Deconstructing Obama,” I have been asked a few times about Obama’s mysterious Social Security number.
Not knowing enough to speak authoritatively, I chose to swim upstream through the data flood and head for the source.
Here I found a no-nonsense licensed investigator from Ohio named Susan Daniels. Widowed at 30 with seven children, Daniels went back to school and eventually emerged as a certified paralegal.
After several years working for others, Daniels got her own license as an investigator in 1995. Since then, she has specialized in litigation support for law firms. Her particular strength has been in researching assets.
By her own admission, Daniels is “good with public records.” She knows her way around databases and has access to many that the public does not.
“I did not like the way things were going,” Daniels says of the country’s drift circa 2009. And so in the best spirit of citizen journalism, she began to investigate Obama on her own.
What she and fellow investigator Neil Sankey unearthed was a nugget that could have ended the career of a George Bush or a Sarah Plain: Barack Obama had been using a social security number issued in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979, a state in which he never lived or even visited at that time in his life.
This will not come as news to the readers of WorldNetDaily, whose thorough investigation climaxed last June when WND’s veteran White House correspondent Les Kinsolving confronted Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs on the subject.
Predictably, Gibbs laughed Kinsolving off and switched the subject to the birth certificate. Kinsolving had seen this kind of laugh and switch before. In 1982, for instance, he introduced the subject of AIDS to then press secretary Larry Speakes.
“Over a third of [the victims] have died,” said Kinsolving. “It’s known as ‘gay plague.’”
“I don’t have it. Do you?” joked Speakes to a general round of laughter. But unlike Gibbs, Speakes simply did not know any better.
As much as Daniels appreciates the work of WND and other serious investigators who have helped clarify the picture, she is distressed by the few who have clouded it.
“There have been many playing junior investigator from the start,” she jokes. “I don't know if they even have their decoder rings yet.”
This being the case, I asked Daniels to guide me through the data mine field and help me ascertain what we know for sure about the world’s best-known social security number--042-68-4425.
“All I can say,” says Daniels of 042-68-4425, “is that it’s phony and [Obama] has been using it, with it first appearing on his selective service document in 1980.”
Daniels sent me a copy of the hand-written application of the individual who held the number immediately before Obama’s, 042-68-4424. The applicant, Thomas Wood, died at age nineteen which is why his information is available.
Wood's Social Security number was issued sometime between March and May of 1977. Obama would turn sixteen in August of that year. Woods lived on Glenview Drive in Newington, Connecticut, the state from which all “042s” applied. Obama lived in Hawaii.
True to form, the left-leaning media set out to undermine the Social Security controversy and ridicule the investigators. Revealing, however, is the weakness of the response.
“Numbers are assigned based on the return address on the request envelope, not residency,” crowed Jason Linkins in the Huffington Post as though he had said something meaningful. Linkins suggested two possible explanations, both preposterous.
One is that Obama applied for his SSN as a little boy in Indonesia for no known reason, and the application just happened to be processed in Connecticut for no known reason either.
For the second, Jinkins cited the argument of Carole Glibert, in the Yahoo-related “Associated Content.” Said Gilbert, presumably with a straight face, “In fact, Barack Obama's dad attended college in Connecticut and in 1977, Obama was college aged; is it beyond reason to consider that he might have checked out his father's alma mater?”
Last time I checked, Harvard was in Massachusetts. The closest town to Harvard in Connecticut is about 90 minutes away, and there is no record that Obama Sr. lived there, let alone that Obama visited his imaginary alma mater and just happened to apply for a Social Security card while visiting.
Daniels also sent me a copy of Obama’s Selective Service data. Obama appears to have registered on September 4, 1980, a month after his nineteenth birthday. The form lists the telling last four digits of his “042” number, “4425.”
This is the first use of the “042” number that Daniels could find. She is just not sure it is legitimate. Some have credibly argued that the Selective Service information was forged and backdated once Obama became a presidential candidate.
“They were stupid to use the CT number on the [Selective Service] card,” Daniels adds, “because now there is no way for [Obama] to back out of that number.”
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It seems more likely to me that it was a manual process. Somebody looked at the mailing address, got out a chart, and assigned the number based upon what the person SAW on the mailing address.
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Keypunch machines and punch cards: Sorry, but I can't seem to visualize what these looked like or what work they did in the Social Security processing office in Baltimore, Maryland.
1. So could you---or anyone else here, especially if you have ever worked at a Social Security office---please help me by explaining in more detail what they looked like in 1977 and how a clerk in the Baltimore, Maryland Social Security main processing office might use them?
2. For instance, how would a clerk use those machines after an unopened letter containing a SS application form from Hawaii in 1977 arrived at the clerk's desk.
3.If I walked into the SS Baltimore, Maryland office in 1977, would I see rows and rows of clerks at desks with these keypunch machines sitting on these desks?
4. Would those clerks sit at their desks all day without getting up except for lunch and personal needs, or would the clerks have to get up every so often to deliver the now opened application forms to another step in the application process?
5. What are the chances that clerks back in 1977---or, say, between 1960 and 1977---would sometimes accidentally punch 042, Connecticut, instead of 942, Hawaii, on those machines when they entered an application's information into Social Security's records because those numbers were very close together on those machines?
Thanks for your help.
I don't have to have worked there to know that clerks in any office sometimes make mistakes when typing data into a computer.
2. If a clerk in the Baltimore central processing office of Social Security made a mistake with Obama's application form in 1977---he typed 0 for Connecticut instead of 9 for Hawaii--wouldn't it be reasonable to expect that the same clerk, or other clerks, made the same mistake several times over the period from 1977 to the present?
Yes, I think it is probable that a handful people who used the same Honolulu zip code as Obama when applying for their social security car some time after 1973 also have a social security number that begins with 042. Unfortunately, the Social Security database does not allow public access, so we can't test this hypothesis.
5. So until you can come up with some present or former Hawaii residents besides Obama who also have a Social Security number beginning with 0 or 042, for Connecticut, instead of 942 for Hawaii, but who have never lived in Connecticut, then I say that your theory is in error, sounds highly improbable.
Your conclusion does not follow from its premises. While I agree that finding another example of someone who experienced the same typo would support the theory, even without that evidence, my theory it is still the most plausible one, as it is the only one consistent with all the facts presently in evidence.
I very much doubt it. The 1970's were the golden age of IBM mainframes. Virtually every large orgnization was using them to manage their records by 1977, even the government.
“I don’t know who the hell Jimmy is.”
Reagan told him “There you go again.”
JC
And I don’t care either.
WND.Com has been all over the eligibility issue like a pullet on a June bug from the gitgo...
JC
Dr. Conspiracy has a new post about it. If Hollister's screen shots are genuine (and that's a big if, given the guy's history), the most likely explanation is that the Social Security Administration issued Obama a new number after his old number was compromised when, thanks to Orly, it became widely available all over the web:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/03/more-social-security-troubles-for-the-president/
Any citizen can request a new number if he has reason to believe the old number has been compromised and he is at risk of identity theft. Recall that the Social Security number is supposed to be private.
On another note, if Hollister's screen shot is genuine, what he did was illegal.
That's because he didn't. Dead people's numbers are recorded in the Social Security Death Index, which is a matter of public record. You can search that index for his number for yourself:
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
You'll find it won't come up.
And you know for a fact that Hawaii's public schools keep their records for over 40 years? How?
Besides, of what possible relevance are Obama's Kindergarten records? Do you want to know how many timeouts he had to take for talking out of turn?
Numerous news articles,
No, it was exactly ONE news article.
Snopes itself (until it scrubbed), Wikipedia, a student newspaper written by a person who interviewed his sister (a student who, btw, has never “corrected” his “mistake”),
Snopes, Wikidpedia and a student newsletter (not even a newspaper) don't count as news articles. All of those "sources" were getting their information from the same Wikipedia article, which was written by some high school kid who later admitted to simply making up the information about the hospital.
African news stories,
I haven't seen these, and I don't believe you. Got a link?
genealogists, and even one of his own campaign websites.
These aren't news articles, and like the other sources, all got their incorrect information from the same Wikipedia entry written by a high school kid who made it up.
Obama and every single member of his family has been consistent in maintaining he was born at Kapiolani, not Queens.
A reporter? ONE? Did you see that word I used? NUMEROUS. See this link for a comprehensive review of numerous “reporters” who “got his mother’s first name wrong”:
I read your link. So it was one reporter and a handful of bloggers. Big deal.
Why is it important? Why is it NOT important?
Because the fact a reporter and a handful of bloggers got his mother's first name wrong has no relevance to either his eligibility or performance as president.
And birthers wonder why no one takes them seriously...
I didn't expect, dear, that you you would understand such simple things!
But if you were able to read what came out of Free Canada Press' link, then and maybe then(?) you could/should understand!!
All the FAUX's weak talking heads and their buxom, short skirt, high heels blond guests got strictly "marching orders" of NOT touching or bringing up the eligibility issue at any circumstances from Murdoch/Ailes and others. Likewise Rush got put on the same "dog muzzle" by Mark Mays, hello dear!!!
Seems you are left behind, because very clearly, that Donald Trump does. Shouting out from the rooftop, "Show the damn birth certificate," FINO. It got a lot of traction on three FAUX programs yesterday and also Rush covered it for some time today, for the first time really without jeopardize themselves from the "marching orders" of air silence, they got a free pass, because Joy Be-Hair brought it up on ABC's VIEW for the Washing-Women in rumors-ville and your girl friend Whooppi freaked out totally !!!
Wow. Donald Trump. My, I'm really impressed./sarcasm
Multiple SS #’s within the last decade?
I very much doubt it. The 1970's were the golden age of IBM mainframes. Virtually every large orgnization was using them to manage their records by 1977, even the government.
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Could you please explain the steps a clerk at the Social Security Baltimore, Maryland main processing center took to enter Obama's Hawaii application information into the IBM mainframe?
That is, if I were a clerk at the Baltimore, Maryland Social Security processing center in 1977 and Obama's application from Hawaii came to me in an unopened letter, how would I enter the information into the IBM mainframe?
1. Would I have a computer at my desk back in 1977, and I would simply type Obama's information into the IBM mainframe using my keyboard like the one I am using to type this message?
2. If I had a computer on my desk, what did it look like back in 1977? Who made it? Would the computer screen, the computer, and the keyboard be separate, or, would they have been in one piece?
NOTE: I wish someone who worked in the Social Security Baltimore, Maryland office around 1977 would come here and tell us how a clerk would have processed Obama's Hawaii Social Security application at that time.
Specifically, I would like to know what were the chances that a clerk could accidentally type 042, for Connecticut, instead of 942, for Hawaii, because on a computer keyboard the numbers 0 and 9 are next to each other.
Curiosity: I am wondering about the Hawaii 942 number that you claim should have been given to Obama if the clerk had not made a typo mistake and typed 0 instead of the correct 9.
1. If Obama was never given the correct 942 number, was the number then given to someone else in Hawaii later?
2. Does anyone know who has the Hawaii numbers BEFORE AND AFTER the Hawaii 942 number that should have been given to Obama but was not?
3. I'm sorry, but your a-clerk-typed-the-wrong-digit theory hangs very delicately by a a very thin piece of thread, because it is based so much on an unknown clerk who may have had problems with the 0 and 9 keys on a keyboard or a typewriter.
4. Also, your 0-instead-of-9 theory may seem plausible to you, but since you have no way of proving it, then to many of us, your theory is more laughable than plausible.
danamco: Really, NO we don’t, including Donald Trump
BuckeyeTexan: We don’t want Rush to do what he wants when he wants? Explain that one to me, precious, because I don’t understand.
danamco: Likewise Rush got put on the same "dog muzzle" by Mark Mays, hello dear!!!
I realize you believe Rush was given "marching orders." I don't. As I said, Rush makes his own rules. Regardless, you didn't explain your original comment that we really don't want Rush to do whatever he wants. So again, why do we want Rush to follow marching orders?
.... Dr. Conspiracy has a new post about it. If Hollister’s screen shots are genuine (and that's a big if, given the guy's history), the most likely explanation is that the Social Security Administration issued Obama a new number after his old number was compromised when, thanks to Orly, it became widely available all over the web:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/03/more-social-security-troubles-for-the-president/
Any citizen can request a new number if he has reason to believe the old number has been compromised and he is at risk of identity theft. Recall that the Social Security number is supposed to be private.
ROFLMAO=from SSA
Should you get a new Social Security number?
If you have done all you can to fix the problems resulting from misuse of your Social Security number and someone still is using your number, we may assign you a new number.
YOU CANNOT GET A NEW Social Security number:
•To avoid the consequences of filing for bankruptcy;
•IF YOU INTEND TO AVOID THE LAW or your legal responsibility; or
•If your Social Security card is lost or stolen, BUT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT SOMEONE IS USING YOUR NUMBER.
If you decide to apply for a new number, you will need to prove YOUR AGE, U.S. CITIZENSHIP OR LAWFUL IMMIGRATION STATUS AND IDENTITY. For more information, ask for Your Social Security Number And Card (Publication Number 05-10002). You also will need to provide evidence that you still are being disadvantaged by the misuse.
Keep in mind that a new number probably will not solve all your problems. This is because other governmental agencies (such as the Internal Revenue Service and state motor vehicle agencies) and private businesses (such as banks and credit reporting companies) likely will have records under your old number. Also, because credit reporting companies use the number, along with other personal information, to identify your credit record, using a new number will not guarantee you a fresh start. This is especially true if your other personal information, such as your name and address, remains the same.
If you receive a new Social Security number, you will not be able use the old number anymore.
For some victims of identity theft, a new number actually creates new problems. If the old credit information is not associated with the new number, the absence of any credit history under the new number may make it more difficult for you to get credit.
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10064.html
.... On another note, if Hollister’s screen shot is genuine, what he did was illegal.......
NOW THAT'S FUNNY, GO AHEAD AND SUE OR PROSECUTE HIM...DISCOVERY OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEFENSE.
ROFLMAO..Dr. Conspiracy is your new hero, he can't even figure out that the State Dept stiffed him and why...
If they did issue Obama another number as I previously posted they would have had it come back with a different reason,number 6 (below)”did not verify other reason”... not that it had never been issued...(sounds like its true it has never been issued) When did Obama supposedly get a new one reissued? Check his tax return..LOL...Did they reissue him a new name and place of birth cause his story has been compromised? WHAT DID HE SHOW TO PROVE CITIZENSHIP AND IDENTITY?
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/ssnvshandbk/SSNresults.htm
SSN VERIFICATION RESULTS
On the SSN Verification Results web page, a table is displayed with the results for name and SSN verification requests submitted online. In addition, a tally is displayed showing the total number of:
•Records submitted,
•Failed,
•Deceased and
•Verified.
VERIFIED
The SSN submitted for verification matches SSA’s records.
•A “blank” Verification Results field = a verified SSN.
For security reasons, if the record has a “blank” Verification Results field, the first five (5) positions of the SSN will be masked with an “X”.
FAILED VERIFICATION
For security reasons, if the record has a verification code of 2, 3, 4 or 6, the first five (5) positions of the SSN will be masked with an “X”.
Verification Results Code - The following is the list of FAILED verification codes.
•1 = SSN not in file (never issued).
•2 = Name and DOB match; gender code does not match.
•3 = Name and gender code match; DOB does not match.
•4 = Name matches; DOB and gender code do not match.
•5 = Name does not match; DOB and gender code not checked.
•6 = SSN did not verify; other reason.
Oh and by the way a student newspaper isn't the only one who got Obama mixed up, check out the Honolulu Advertiser Mr
Will Hoover Jan 8, 2006 he thought Obama was from Indonesia, you know the supposedly credible newspaper who printed Obama;s supposed birth announcements for the address his father never lived at...yeah that newspaper.
http://www.okcupid.com/forum?tid=11271837632749812102
You have a lot of gall posting your crap without doing research and telling other people "This isn't very complicated, but I realize you were obviously stunted in your mental development, so you might find the above hard to follow. Nevertheless, do try. I'll be happy to provide you with more clarification if you have trouble".
You should be ashamed of yourself, but that would require a conscience....
....That’s because he didn’t. Dead people’s numbers are recorded in the Social Security Death Index, which is a matter of public record. You can search that index for his number for yourself:....
sheesh do you do any original reseearch or just pull stuff out of your butt or are you just plain lying? How many reasons are there that a dead person is not in the SSDI?
It's a bit hard to get your new SS card out of a mailbox in CT when you're in HI.
One of the 999 numbers could have been issued to the Kenyan birthed Obama and the other one issued to the adopted Indonesian Soetoro. Both foreigners. Double dipping the scholarships.
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