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Another Look at Obama’s Social Security Number
Cashill.com ^ | 3-17-11 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/22/2011 1:23:41 PM PDT by STARWISE

While out promoting my new book, “Deconstructing Obama,” I have been asked a few times about Obama’s mysterious Social Security number.

Not knowing enough to speak authoritatively, I chose to swim upstream through the data flood and head for the source.

Here I found a no-nonsense licensed investigator from Ohio named Susan Daniels. Widowed at 30 with seven children, Daniels went back to school and eventually emerged as a certified paralegal.

After several years working for others, Daniels got her own license as an investigator in 1995. Since then, she has specialized in litigation support for law firms. Her particular strength has been in researching assets.

By her own admission, Daniels is “good with public records.” She knows her way around databases and has access to many that the public does not.

“I did not like the way things were going,” Daniels says of the country’s drift circa 2009. And so in the best spirit of citizen journalism, she began to investigate Obama on her own.

What she and fellow investigator Neil Sankey unearthed was a nugget that could have ended the career of a George Bush or a Sarah Plain: Barack Obama had been using a social security number issued in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979, a state in which he never lived or even visited at that time in his life.

This will not come as news to the readers of WorldNetDaily, whose thorough investigation climaxed last June when WND’s veteran White House correspondent Les Kinsolving confronted Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs on the subject.

Predictably, Gibbs laughed Kinsolving off and switched the subject to the birth certificate. Kinsolving had seen this kind of laugh and switch before. In 1982, for instance, he introduced the subject of AIDS to then press secretary Larry Speakes.

“Over a third of [the victims] have died,” said Kinsolving. “It’s known as ‘gay plague.’”

“I don’t have it. Do you?” joked Speakes to a general round of laughter. But unlike Gibbs, Speakes simply did not know any better.

As much as Daniels appreciates the work of WND and other serious investigators who have helped clarify the picture, she is distressed by the few who have clouded it.

“There have been many playing junior investigator from the start,” she jokes. “I don't know if they even have their decoder rings yet.”

This being the case, I asked Daniels to guide me through the data mine field and help me ascertain what we know for sure about the world’s best-known social security number--042-68-4425.

“All I can say,” says Daniels of 042-68-4425, “is that it’s phony and [Obama] has been using it, with it first appearing on his selective service document in 1980.”

Daniels sent me a copy of the hand-written application of the individual who held the number immediately before Obama’s, 042-68-4424. The applicant, Thomas Wood, died at age nineteen which is why his information is available.

Wood's Social Security number was issued sometime between March and May of 1977. Obama would turn sixteen in August of that year. Woods lived on Glenview Drive in Newington, Connecticut, the state from which all “042s” applied. Obama lived in Hawaii.

True to form, the left-leaning media set out to undermine the Social Security controversy and ridicule the investigators. Revealing, however, is the weakness of the response.

“Numbers are assigned based on the return address on the request envelope, not residency,” crowed Jason Linkins in the Huffington Post as though he had said something meaningful. Linkins suggested two possible explanations, both preposterous.

One is that Obama applied for his SSN as a little boy in Indonesia for no known reason, and the application just happened to be processed in Connecticut for no known reason either.

For the second, Jinkins cited the argument of Carole Glibert, in the Yahoo-related “Associated Content.” Said Gilbert, presumably with a straight face, “In fact, Barack Obama's dad attended college in Connecticut and in 1977, Obama was college aged; is it beyond reason to consider that he might have checked out his father's alma mater?”

Last time I checked, Harvard was in Massachusetts. The closest town to Harvard in Connecticut is about 90 minutes away, and there is no record that Obama Sr. lived there, let alone that Obama visited his imaginary alma mater and just happened to apply for a Social Security card while visiting.

Daniels also sent me a copy of Obama’s Selective Service data. Obama appears to have registered on September 4, 1980, a month after his nineteenth birthday. The form lists the telling last four digits of his “042” number, “4425.”

This is the first use of the “042” number that Daniels could find. She is just not sure it is legitimate. Some have credibly argued that the Selective Service information was forged and backdated once Obama became a presidential candidate.

“They were stupid to use the CT number on the [Selective Service] card,” Daniels adds, “because now there is no way for [Obama] to back out of that number.”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: cashill; certifigate; connecticut; jackcashill; obama; obamassn; obamassns; obbama; socialsecnumbers
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101 posted on 03/22/2011 7:08:06 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I applied well before Barry for my SS#, but I was also 16ish and did it myself. Sixteen isn’t a child who can’t fill out a relatively simple form. I may have needed some parental input, but I remember getting a SS# made me feeling like a real grown up. Since then SSA began to require that kids get them, so parents have to send in the applications now. Another rite of passage bites the dust.


102 posted on 03/22/2011 7:19:15 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Mr.Unique
-- ... can you tell me how we know his is a re-issue. --

I jumped to a false conclusion that this article described a re-issue, on a hasty and less than careful read. In particular, I was left with the incorrect impression that Mr. Wood (or Woods) was assigned the same number attributed to Obama.

103 posted on 03/22/2011 7:20:40 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: bushpilot1

Ah come on bush, keep an open mind. Curiosity has been here a reasonable amount of time. He is giving reasonable points of argument. We are about finding the truth, are we not?


104 posted on 03/22/2011 7:23:44 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: WestSylvanian

Sorry West, “Have you got” is very Southern U.S.A. I use it all the time.


105 posted on 03/22/2011 7:25:28 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: musicman

106 posted on 03/22/2011 7:50:58 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

(Mutley "Snickers")

107 posted on 03/22/2011 7:54:27 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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108 posted on 03/22/2011 7:59:54 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; curiosity
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/colonel-gregory-hollister-obamas-social.html

Well how does Obies SS number never being issued fit with y’all’s theory? Another typ0?

109 posted on 03/22/2011 8:06:27 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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110 posted on 03/22/2011 8:07:21 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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111 posted on 03/22/2011 8:09:22 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: rolling_stone

Very interesting.


113 posted on 03/22/2011 8:49:10 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: STARWISE
Why not simply ask Obama why he has a Social Security number that seems to have been issued in Connecticut?

That is, between now and election Nov. 2012, why don't people simply ask Obama at every campaign stop and on every tv appearance why his Social Security number seems to have been issued in Connecticut, when there is no record of Obama ever living in Connecticut?

Yes, I believe that we should make it a top campaign issue until Obama finally explains his side of the story as to why he seems to have a Social Security number that was issued in Connecticut and not in Hawaii.

114 posted on 03/23/2011 5:33:10 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Cboldt
I jumped to a false conclusion that this article described a re-issue, on a hasty and less than careful read. In particular, I was left with the incorrect impression that Mr. Wood (or Woods) was assigned the same number attributed to Obama.

Sadly, it seems that the article was written to be confused in just that way.

115 posted on 03/23/2011 6:36:04 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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To: rolling_stone; curiosity

SAD was married to Lolo Soetoro when Obama’s SSN was issued. Hollister queried with “Barack Obama.” I’d have to guess that Obama was “Barry Soetoro” at that time. Of course, I have no idea. As I said earlier, I’m just throwing out stuff. Nobody knows the truth.


116 posted on 03/23/2011 7:06:40 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: EDINVA

As I said, I was just guessing. Obama had a unique situation being adopted by an Indonesian and living with grandparents. He may have needed copies of adoption papers, legal guardianship papers, etc. Who really knows? But to your point, yes, a sixteen year old is certainly capable of filling out paperwork. No dispute there.

My paternal grandparents raised me. We lived in FL when I applied for my SSN. I had no contact with my mother at all. To get my SSN, my grandmother and I had to apply in person at the local SSA office with copies of my parents’ original divorce decree granting custody to my father and a notarized statement from my father that his parents were my legal guardians. We also needed copies of his drivers’ license. It was complicated and a pain in the butt. I was 12 in 1982.


117 posted on 03/23/2011 7:14:11 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: EDINVA

Forgot the most important part - duh! I also had to supply a certified copy of my BC from Ohio. (Yes, it was a long-form BC.) My mother’s last name is spelled incorrectly on my BC and I’ve never amended it. So the SSA clerk made a big freaking deal that the divorce decree didn’t match the spelling of my mother’s last name.

My ultimate point in relating this whole story is to point out that government bureaucrats can be unnecessarily tedious and picky in processing applications that are abnormal. Obama’s probably was.

Again - I’m just guessing and not making assertions of fact. You know, I’d be “all uppity about it” if I had conclusive evidence.


118 posted on 03/23/2011 7:23:16 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: WVNan

curiosity is on the Sanity Squad (like me). Thus the birthers automatically question and dispute his suggestions/theories. There are others on the squad who’ve been here since 98/99 and the birthers call them trolls for disagreeing with them on this issue. More than a few squad members have served their country in the military and they’re still attacked as Obots and trolls on these threads. It’s disgusting.

(To be fair, not all birthers are guilty of such attacks.)


119 posted on 03/23/2011 7:31:47 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Kudos to your paternal grandparents. I’d say they did an excellent job, even if you are an occasional pain in the a$$ ;)

I wish I could remember what the old SS applications were like. The current version requires both parents’ SS#s, mother’s maiden name, etc. I can’t remember if they did that before all the SSA revisions thru the 70s and 80s. If that info was required in the late 70s, Brackets would have had a more complicated application than most.

There’s only one person who has the answers, and he’s chosen not to be forthcoming about any aspect of his life pre-2004 when he hit the national stage, followed by his meteoric rise to the highest office in the land. It’s all rather extraordinary, rather like blue smoke and mirrors.


120 posted on 03/23/2011 7:38:32 AM PDT by EDINVA
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