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It Feels Drafty [Former Nixon Aide Advocates Universal Draft]
The Episconixonian ^
| March 15, 2011
| John Taylor
Posted on 03/16/2011 10:12:42 AM PDT by Rufii
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John Taylor, a former aide to Richard Nixon during his post-presidential years and the former director of the Nixon Presidential Library in Yorba Linda, Calif., is an Episcopalian clergyman. Taylor is a wonderful person, and I agree with him on many issues, but not on this one.
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:12:47 AM PDT
by
Rufii
To: Rufii
I believe it should be a universal draftmen and women. Many would probably be in the military but there might be other ways to perform required service.
I agree - minimum two years in the military or "Americorps" type service.
I would also require at least six months duty in a third world country.
That'll teach the ungrateful SOBs what a great country America is.
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:18:13 AM PDT
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: Rufii
This was a crazy idea when Bill Buckley floated it, and it’s still nuts. We do not need a draft for the military, and schools should all be privatized, anyway. Staff inner-city schools with Marines, and those kids will learn!
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:18:42 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Nadie me ama como Jesus.)
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To: Rufii
I bet this guy never served in the military. It’s a bad idea. The US military is doing great as an all volunteer force. It doesn’t need to be someone’s social experiment.
One or two years of service isn’t even long enough to learn most trades. It would suck money from the defense of the country and use it to train a bunch of kids who don’t want to be there on jobs they’ll never perform.
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:20:39 AM PDT
by
mbynack
(Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: oh8eleven
Yeah, that whole concept worked so well in Vietnam times - oh wait.
Thats the idea! Take the most efficient fighting force that the world has ever seen and return it to a motley bunch of sullen draftees.
Brilliant!
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:24:45 AM PDT
by
bill1952
(Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
To: Rufii
And the budget for this behemoth would be?
To: Rufii
"...is an Episcopalian clergyman..."
You have inadvertently identified the problem.;-)
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:27:12 AM PDT
by
verity
To: Tar Oil
Oh, good post! Welcome to FR, and help yourself to a Guinness!
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:27:29 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Nadie me ama como Jesus.)
To: Rufii
Conscription is slavery.
Maybe if the country is attacked, it would be acceptable.
But look how Vietnam tore the country apart. Why hasn't Iraq and Afghanistan done the same thing despite the best efforts of the Left? lack of conscription.
Dems were against it in Vietnam, and for it during the Bush era. In both cases it was to destroy their hated political enemies rather than for any principled reason, however wrong.
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:28:19 AM PDT
by
chesley
(Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
To: mbynack
As an AF veteran, I completely agree with you. I’d rather fight next to a wounded volunteer than a sullen draftee.
On the other hand, making everyone pay taxes as soon as they turn 18 would give everyone a stake in the gov’t and reducing the deficit, which is a far greater existential threat to the US.
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:30:25 AM PDT
by
linear
(Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
To: mbynack
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:31:27 AM PDT
by
70th Division
(I love my country but fear my government!)
To: Rufii
Just what the modern US military needs: an influx of unwilling recruits for short term service. It would cost a great deal and contribute little toward any worthy goal. And many of the people at the bottom — mostly minorities — would be chronic discipline problems. It is far better to keep them out of the military and leave them free to follow their chosen career path of school to dropout to gang to prison.
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To: Tar Oil
Tar Oil
Since Mar 11, 2011
Welcome to FR and mind your feckin' manners FNG.
All people who earn an honest living are already serving America.
LOL ... now that's nonsense.
With citizenship comes responsibility. In the last 40 years America has become a nation of wimps, wusses, whiners and whackos.
They take everything that's good for granted, demand more and still complain it's not enough ... all the time damning America.
They vote for the Pol who'll give them the most free stuff and when asked to do more for themselves they march in the street and destroy America.
The irresponsible, disrespectful, lazy, takers of society. Sound familiar comrade?
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:37:46 AM PDT
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: Rufii
The training facilities no longer exist to handle a massive draft, the logistics would be daunting. It would cost millions and millions of dollars to even begin.
Should we enter into a very large world war, the first line of call-up is prior service people. Once an all volunteer Army was established, the facilities to handle large numbers of draftees disappeared.
Anyway, even knowing this I do not agree with conscription. I didn't want to risk my life with someone who didn't want to be with the military when I was in, and I don't want them defending me and mine now.
Exceedingly short-sighted and naive idea.
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posted on
03/16/2011 10:39:50 AM PDT
by
alarm rider
(The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
To: Rufii
No, or at least not for this reason. It amounts to holding unwilling civilians hostage against interventionist foreign policy. It also dilutes the talent pool and lowers morale - I happen to know, I served in the last years of the draft military and the first few of the all-volunteer. Huge difference.
To: Rufii
If there were a draft it could be avoided by flunking the drug test. In order to make the draft universal the military would have to draft dopers.
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