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SCOTUS denies re-hearing of Hollister vs. Soetoro, Obama
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Posted on 03/07/2011 9:28:25 AM PST by charlie72

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To: Walts Ice Pick

By 1932 it was too late to start Hitler’s full assumption of power. That is what is at play here and now. Obama works towards that. Hope and change.

Yet, even now many think that’s paranoia. To make such comparisons. History doesn’t provide perfect repeats. Only approximations may be made. Hitler was elected to office and made the most of it. Likewise does Obama. They only stretched the law to their way, day after day. They followed, did the Germans then, the same perfect logic of process as did the US Court did in Dred Scott. As do the courts in regard to challenges to Obama’s legitimacy to hold the office of President.

Obama and his campaign organizations, the OFA, the Acorns-relabled, the SEIU and the teachers unions, the cohort of Marxist academics, Code Pinks and more a variety than Hitler’s Brownshirts — but in many ways they are parallel. Their methods of their time, but really so close in function and form.

On one hand we have parallels to the situation in the wake of Dredd Scott, in others to Germany of 1930 or so. Again, history never repeats the same thing, but it does cycle through the events of man in similar ways and time frames.

These are very dangerous times. The Supreme Court, or any court, do none any good by their continued willful ignorance of the cries of many that Obama is not legit, that he is a fraud. That ANYONE can call these complaints “fringe” is only a measure of how divorced the elites and those who so claim that we are “fringe” (clearly most elites are so claiming) are from the majority of Americans of all backgrounds, and even from Truth.


81 posted on 03/07/2011 3:59:46 PM PST by bvw
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To: bushpilot1


Do you still claim you read..in chapter 19 section 212 the words a natural born citizen is born to citizen parents.

Yes. Have you visited the Library of Congress to verify this finding yet?

If this freeper has purchased this copy of this 1787 edition of the Law of Nations printed in New York, I sure hope he has deep pockets. The edition at the LoC is not the same as this one:

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I am going to take a guess and say the copy acquired was the digitized one from the National Library of Australia. Their edition is actually the one from Dublin.
82 posted on 03/07/2011 4:03:23 PM PST by devattel
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To: Jim Noble

It seems to me that ‘We the People’ have lost contact with the offices of our government. The office of POTUSA is for sure corrupted by deceit, lack of open information, and enabled subterfuge by shadowy and unknown people. Every person of the Congress is direlect in its/their sworn oath to defend and protect the Constitution for millions of reasonable and patriotic citizens who ask for honest government explanations as to Obama’s eligibility for POTUSA. The Supreme Court justices are even less of character than the other offices and officials in that it/they have shut out any means to debate on the question(s) of eligibility that might extend to Obama. At this point I believe we ‘birthers’ need to search for and expose every bit of history as to Obama. His 2006 statement of being more a child of Indonesia than Kenya, Mrs. Obama’s statement around 2008 that Kenya was Obama’s home country, Obama’s involvement with a relative in Kenyan politics, these and and all other indicators need to be spread far and wide. Place billboards across the country asking if these august offices and officials know these facts or are they denying these to the citizens. It is time for grass roots exposure and to make the direlect people in Washington face up to the travesty they have generated aggainst OUR Constitution and history.


83 posted on 03/07/2011 4:03:28 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Walts Ice Pick

I post here, I have posted here. I will post here. That is what I am doing. If I can file such a brief with as much effect as I can have with a post here I should do so. What do you think?


84 posted on 03/07/2011 4:03:43 PM PST by bvw
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To: Jim Noble

It seems to me that ‘We the People’ have lost contact with the offices of our government. The office of POTUSA is for sure corrupted by deceit, lack of open information, and enabled subterfuge by shadowy and unknown people. Every person of the Congress is direlect in its/their sworn oath to defend and protect the Constitution for millions of reasonable and patriotic citizens who ask for honest government explanations as to Obama’s eligibility for POTUSA. The Supreme Court justices are even less of character than the other offices and officials in that it/they have shut out any means to debate on the question(s) of eligibility that might extend to Obama. At this point I believe we ‘birthers’ need to search for and expose every bit of history as to Obama. His 2006 statement of being more a child of Indonesia than Kenya, Mrs. Obama’s statement around 2008 that Kenya was Obama’s home country, Obama’s involvement with a relative in Kenyan politics, these and and all other indicators need to be spread far and wide. Place billboards across the country asking if these august offices and officials know these facts or are they denying these to the citizens. It is time for grass roots exposure and to make the direlect people in Washington face up to the travesty they have generated aggainst OUR Constitution and history.


85 posted on 03/07/2011 4:04:01 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: bvw
I post here, I have posted here. I will post here. That is what I am doing. If I can file such a brief with as much effect as I can have with a post here I should do so. What do you think?

I think you're absolutely right.

86 posted on 03/07/2011 4:05:24 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Walts Ice Pick

With that expression of trust in my will, I will do what I will then.


87 posted on 03/07/2011 4:07:05 PM PST by bvw
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To: rxsid; Spaulding; edge919; Red Steel

The 1787 Law of Nations is the Luke White edition. It is being sent via mail to the buyer.


88 posted on 03/07/2011 4:07:21 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bvw
With that expression of trust in my will, I will do what I will then.

And, I will be pleased that you do.

89 posted on 03/07/2011 4:08:42 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: devattel

It is Luke White.


90 posted on 03/07/2011 4:19:03 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Walts Ice Pick

This isn’t the BBC, though.


91 posted on 03/07/2011 4:26:53 PM PST by bvw
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To: ldish
i guess from this point forward we are a country of the lawless...no one has to follow the law!

Only the political class is protected.

92 posted on 03/07/2011 4:29:35 PM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: bushpilot1
bushpilot1 said:

It is Luke White.

Luke White is the author of the Dublin editions in 1787 and 1792.

There is much confusion as to which American Edition was printed first. Many sources cite Samuel Campbell's 1796 edition called The law of nations; or priciples of the law of nature; applied to the conduct of affairs of nations and sovereigns...1st American Edition, Corrected and Revised from the Latest London Edition from the French.

However, this is not true. The first edition was Messyrs, Berry, and Rogers in 1787. It can be found in the Library of Congress and is an extremely rare edition. I have attempted to receive facimiles from various libraries around the nation and the world. Each time I get a different copy, one from White, another from Campbell, some even from Chitty. It is clear the libraries do not understand the nuances of the different editions.
93 posted on 03/07/2011 4:33:16 PM PST by devattel
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To: devattel

I spend most of the year in a beach hut in the Pacific Islands...cannot take a trip to the library in DC.

There must be a freeper in the DC area who could visit the library where the 1787 New York edition is located.


94 posted on 03/07/2011 4:52:38 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

It would be very nice for someone to take a day out of their busy schedule to obtain a copy of it from the Library of Congress. I am still having issues tracking down Pomroy’s 1805 edition. This one appears just as elusive.


95 posted on 03/07/2011 4:57:16 PM PST by devattel
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To: devattel

How can someone grab a copy of it..you said it was in the rare book section..


96 posted on 03/07/2011 5:11:39 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Walts Ice Pick
>>> Obama is not our President. <<<

If Obama is not the President, then what is Hollister complaining about?

Dude! Your logic-talk is the bomb!

Ain't nobody's busisness, have mercy, if I do. ;o)

97 posted on 03/07/2011 5:47:01 PM PST by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: bushpilot1; devattel
In the Jefferson room as I recall.




Messgr Berry and Rogers 1787

Messgr Berry and Rogers 1787 no 2

98 posted on 03/07/2011 6:49:10 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: devattel

Is this picture a view of the copy of White’s 1787 edition you said you received?


99 posted on 03/07/2011 7:20:00 PM PST by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

I think you are right about the Supreme Court and also the DOJ pursuing a criminal complaint. The Court took a lot of abuse after the 2000 elections. The Pubs on the Senate Judiciary can be blamed a lot for us getting Obama.

The Pubs signed HR 511 which said McCain was eligible, but it also said others not considered eligible in the past actually were (added by Obama and McCaskill). That is a lie, but Pubs signed off on it and it set an illegal precedent. They don’t want voters to know they were so eager to run McCain that they violated the Constitution and let the Dems do the same. The Pubs, McCain and HIllary were snookered as a result. Howard Dean and Pelosi forced Hillary’s delegates to switch to Obama. The Mar. 12, 2008 secret meeting of Congress revealed the rest of the plan. Maybe some foreign country he has screwed will take care of Obama. Republicans are cowards. They need to get mean.


100 posted on 03/07/2011 8:40:09 PM PST by charlie72
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