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Obama and The Muslim Brotherhood
Warriors For Truth ^ | 3/6/2011 | Warriors For Truth

Posted on 03/06/2011 9:45:53 PM PST by Warriors For Truth

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"We shouldn't be afraid of Islam in the politics of these countries," said a senior Obama administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity. Obama is preparing for the prospect that Islamist governments will take hold in North Africa and the Middle East. Since taking office, Obama has argued that Islamic belief and democratic politics are compatable

The Muslim Brotherhood said it rejects U.S. intervention in Libya and the Libyan people can remove leader Mu'ammar Al-Qadhafi by itself, at whatever cost, and that freedom is a religious obligation that is dearer than life. Religious not Democratic obligation

America's secret plan to arm Libya's rebels. Obama asks Saudis to airlift U.S. weapons into Benghazi. Democratic Obligation?


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KEYWORDS: democracy; lawrenceofarabia; libya; middleeastcrisis; muslimbrotherhood; obama; religiouslaw

1 posted on 03/06/2011 9:45:55 PM PST by Warriors For Truth
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To: Warriors For Truth

Forcing Mubarak from Egypt and Ben Ali from Tunisia should result in bad outcomes, and be the pattern for Middle East unrest as it spreads to Libya and elsewhere. These dictators precipitate political wildernesses resembling the lesson ignored 32 years ago when Carter discarded the Shah of Iran. The Obama Administration and other media sources encouraged, and applaud the demise of these oligarchies, but studiously ignore evidence of attendant brittle economic, social, and political environments. In the Middle East the most violent aspiring Islamic and secular totalitarians should exploit these strains to follow traditional malevolent roads to power energized with lethal political intrigues and religious heresies.

About 1100 AD Hassan bin Sabah, who inherited the Assassin’s Guild, enlightened Islamist societies to terrorism as foundational statecraft for political prosperity. Philosophical and religious lawyers retained their lives, and obtained support for dictators by backwards engineering the Koran into useful totalitarian heterodoxies. Concurrently, foundational thought including Jews, Christians and Muslims as ‘People of the Book” became hazardous. Concurrently, Saladin’s Sufism stressing individual relationship with God, and exalting individuals in society became marginalized. Concurrently, extraordinary Arab achievements in mathematics, philosophy, science, and medicine submerged within authoritarian and feral societies. Omar Khayyam, Ibn al-Haytham, and Abu Ali al-Hussain Ibn Sina had no successors for uncompromising, independent thought. Such simultaneous extinctions provide compelling evidence of a pervasive contagion subverting the Middle East.

What remained was bloody electioneering among aspiring totalitarians causing them to grasp and retain their power by crafting superior alliances of human cunning and animal brutality. For them dazzling spectacle and mercurial oratory belie principled commitment to a continuum where politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. Once acquired these skills easily replicate through generations for managing philosophies from Democracy to Communism. The natural result in our present time establishes “The Democratic (or) Islamic Peoples Republic of Whatever”.

Contrary to what media sources insist, Glenn Beck does not indulge in paranoid fantasy concerning the Muslim Brotherhood. He relates caution consistent with its history since founding in 1928 for notable events such as allying with Hitler, planning the assassination of Nasser, and supporting Hamas, notwithstanding its ongoing involvement with terrorism. His analysis points up the question of why this would and organizations like Ai Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and successors ever abandon strategies proven throughout a millennium?

To council a Middle East contending against such electioneering, Obama brings his newly minted Nobel Peace Prize, and all the nominating committee’s comforting assurances. However, he must deal with people sharing the perception of Greg Lewis in American Thinker, who painted the picture of Obama as displaying classic beta male behavior. The alpha male dog approaches directly, while the beta male displays acquiescent gestures signaling uncompromising submission. Lewis saw submissiveness in offering conciliatory gestures to Sudanese leader Omar Hassan al-Bashir, in sending John Kerry to meet Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, in bowing to King Abdullah, in airy discussions with Hugo Chavez and David Ortega, and in generally ridiculing the U.S. whenever he appears on an international stage.

Of course these actions were constructive within the worldview continually vetted by the liberal constituencies Obama cherishes. For these people the best approaches to diplomacy and politics reside within modern game theory for which John Nash and others received their Nobel prizes. All believe Islamic societies should realize the brilliance of Western conflict resolution, and should enter into peaceful, meaningful dialogues achieving gentle understandings and transitions. When instead Oriental opponents manage perceptions of submissive posturing into concessions exchanged for photo ops and sound bites, such constituencies become befuddled by the intricacies and chicanery of this unorthodox diplomacy.

In case one considers this a Democrat affliction only, consider that the Bush Administration also embraced thinking from our best universities. It abandoned the interim council of 25 ethnically and religiously diverse members, who produced the Transitional Administrative Law (TAL) as basis for a new Iraq constitution. Its’ 39 articles were unique in the Arab world for conceiving republican, federal, democratic and pluralistic government guaranteeing rights for speech, religion, private property, etc. for all including Christians, Jews and former Ba’athists. Instead they artlessly marginalized these unique leaders and this document by adopting a U.N. brokered plan put forth by Algeria, which encouraged traditional authoritative Arab rule.

T. E. Lawrence provides valuable insights about Arab countries, because though he was clearly an intellectual, his education was tempered by extensive travels from 1909 to 1914 away from the colonial community, even before he lead the Arab revolt in WW I. In the Seven Pillars of Wisdom he says, “They are a people of starts, for whom the abstract was the strongest motive, the process of infinite courage and variety, and the end nothing. They were as unstable as water, and like water would perhaps finally prevail. Since the dawn of life, in successive waves they had been dashing themselves against the coasts of flesh. Each wave was broken, but, like the sea, wore away ever so little of the granite on which it failed, and some day, ages yet, might roll unchecked over the place the material world has been and God would move upon the face of those waters”.

The United States, as a super power and the beneficiary of an anomalous revolution resulting in personal liberty, has a moral responsibility to bear any burden to spread the ideals to which we aspire, not only in Egypt and Tunisia, but throughout the Middle East. Notwithstanding the necessity for real politick, our country should offer moral leadership by seeking out and supporting the yet anonymous, selfless individuals and constituencies willing to endanger their lives and those of their families to establish durable economic models and representative governments. With our help such people and constituencies might not be broken by the granite of secular totalitarianism or Islamic Fundamentalism. The United States should be considered a dependable, if difficult ally or enemy.


2 posted on 03/06/2011 10:09:59 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike
The United States, as a super power and the beneficiary of an anomalous revolution resulting in personal liberty, has a moral responsibility to bear any burden to spread the ideals to which we aspire, not only in Egypt and Tunisia, but throughout the Middle East.

The first statement is correct. The American Revolution was an anomalous and not to be replicated event the rest is vintage world saver Wilsonian globalony. We do not as a nation have an obligation to do anything for anybody. We do have an obligation to our citizens to defend ourselves from enemies and to pursue national interests which ought be concrete, discrete, and explainable not to engage in endless crusades to institute some sort of universalist ambitions. Many Americans like to believe we have some heaven sent mandate to save the world. This is a dangerous illusion. It muddled thinking about ends and means in the exercise of US interests. US leaders have spoken so much moralizing rubbish for so long in any discourse about foreign affairs and military operations that even though our leaders are a jaded, secularized and materialistic lot they have become so intellectually lazy that they, in many cases, can't even in their private discussions really frame an argument from national interest. The incredibly screwed up follow on to deposing the Saddam regime (for which there were some valid national interests in play)
is in large measure because of the lack of clarity about what our interests were and how to achieve them. The cartoonish, simplistic, moralizing cant that underlies the ‘we have a responsibility to bring enlightenment to the planet’ is both effrontery of the highest order and inherently damaging to pursuing real interests.

3 posted on 03/06/2011 10:31:55 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Warriors For Truth

Welcome to Free Republic!


4 posted on 03/07/2011 12:03:14 AM PST by matthew fuller
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To: Warriors For Truth

Going forward, please post content from this site into the Bloggers forum, not News/Activism. Thanks.


5 posted on 03/07/2011 3:58:41 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Warriors For Truth

For the UNknowing, the UNaware and the wary,

When the founding fathers thought of America, their little baby, the last thing they wanted was an invasive force to stifle, smother it, and then overwhelm it and kill it.

Most people do not recognize that what happens in a mosque is sedition. Pure and simple. Islam is not just a “religion”, it is a cult. Larger than that though, it is a political system, it is it’s own government, a economic system (which includes funding new mosque construction), its judicial...all wrapped up in the word sharia. This is inclusive of its military (jihadis) all rolled into one with one intent ...and that is to rule wherever they take root. It is a invasive, systemic infection looking to take over the host once it has quantum.

This is not just a “religion”, but something that cloaks itself in those terms so it should not be given the same treatment contemplated under the first amendment. The Korans Sharia rules are to consume whatever government there is wherever it goes.
Islam is political, and it’s goal is to supplant and replace. Globally.

When the founding fathers thought of America, their little baby, the last thing they wanted was an invasive force to stifle, smother it, and then overwhelm it and kill it.

The sooner America learns this , the better. Some know and many do not, but it is a threat to everything America knows.

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. He is doing nothing to protect America as per his oath. Also, as a Muslim, he knows this, he know far better, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.
For all interested...Wanna learn more?
On Sharia
http://thehayride.com/2010/08/louisiana-at-leading-edge-in-fight-against-shariah/#more-5392

On sharia global finance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7iHxl90CD0&feature=related

On sharia global Economy and huge financial fraud!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbb5s8hALVE&feature=related

this,
Three things about Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

and a little Bill Whittle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_iDPRud_c

Maybe we should talk about the birth of Pakistan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IstZSgniH8

How can anyone suggest Obama maybe a Muslim... most unfounded statement ever!

For the unaware and unknowing.... and the wary

We all have different dreams, and perceptions about America and what it should become. A special thank you to Cruise _Missile for summarizing his observations!

Obama is a Muslim wanabe or Wahabe

• The FIRST thing Obama did as a newly elected Illinois State Senator was to attempt to declare a Muslim holiday. Obama sponsored Bill SR0110 in the 90th General Assembly to declare November 1, 1997 to be Islamic Community Center Day. It did not pass.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/srgroups/sr/900SR0110LV.html

• His biological father was a Muslim.
http://www.bing.com/reference/semhtml/?title=Barack_Obama%2C_Sr.&src=abop&qpvt=barack+obama+seniot&q=barack+obama+senior&fwd=1

• Because his biological father was a Muslim the Islam world thinks he is a Muslim.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2010/08/obama_is_a_muslim_18_24_or.html?hpid=topnews
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

• His stepfather was a Muslim.
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

• As a child Barry was enrolled in school as a Muslim in Jakarta Indonesia. An Indonesian Madrasa.
• Barack Hussein Obama’s first and middle names are Arabic Muslim names.
Barack was the name for Mohammad’s horse. Husein, enough said.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700246419/Barack-Muhammads-horse.html
http://sanooaung.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/will-be-obama-with-us-muslims-as-the-meaning-of-his-name-in-persian-language/

• Obama recited the opening lines of the Muslim call to prayer, which includes a vow of fidelity to Islam, in flawless Arabic on a radio program. - Nikolos Kristoff, NYTs, 3-06-07 (***this one is a gottcha moment***)
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3413/pub_detail.asp
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11679

• On that same program he said he thinks the call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth.”
http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of-the-prettiest-sounds-on-earth/
http://caosblog.com/archives/7373

• Obama belonged to Rev. Wright’s (a former Muslim) church for twenty years. Many congregants are Muslims.
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jeremiah-wright-former-muslim/
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/20/rev-wright-got-his-masters-degree-in-islam-in-west-africa/
http://endtimes.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/289

• Obama’s said that the U.S. is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/9959057/Barack_Hussein_Obama_US_one_of_the_largest_Muslim_countries_in_the_world/
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/obama_america_one_of_the_large_1.asp

• Obama holds Muslim celebrations in the WH but canceled the National Day of Prayer.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1724544/obama_cancels_national_day_of_prayer.html?cat=9
http://www.exposeobama.com/

• President Obama’s religious adviser, Eboo Patel, once deemed the United States “the ideal place for the renewal of Islam.”

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

• Obama does not give gifts on Christmas.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12035.html

• Obama doesn’t celebrate his birthday.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/a-tough-birthday-for-obama/

• Obama falsely attributes Muslim participation in the founding of America.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7041/pub_detail.asp

• Obama required that the cross be covered when he gave a speech at Notre Dame.
http://blog.acton.org/archives/9843-notre-dame-georgetown-and-president-obama.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/11/opinion/main5006203.shtml
http://dougpowers.com/2009/04/17/obamas-jesus-coverup/

• Christian symbol covered up during Obama’s Georgetown speech
http://myfaithspace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-covers-christ-and-cross
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46667

• Obama’s first major speech in office was a “Muslim outreach” speech in Cairo Egypt.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8083171.stm

• “The American President told me in confidence that he is a Muslim,” said Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit on Nile TV.
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/bombshell-egyptian-foreign-minister-ahmed-aboul-gheit-says-on-egyptian-tv-%e2%80%9cthe-american-president-told-me-in-confidence-that-he-is-still-a-muslim-%e2%80%9d/
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=166905

• Obama gave strong support to the Cordoba House community center and mosque to be built at the Ground Zero site of Sep. 11, 2001 at a dinner celebrating the day’s end of the first day of Ramadan at the WH.
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/president-obama-supports-ground-zero-mosque/19593492?ncid=webmail

• Obama tasked NASA with a mission of “Muslim outreach.”
http://technology.newsplurk.com/2010/07/nasa-and-islam.html

• Obama referred to his faith as “my Muslim faith” gaffe in an interview with George Stephanopolous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

• Pushes Islamic freedom of religion but not Jewish or Christian freedoms. Several weeks ago he told Israel NOT to build settlements in East Jerusalem. But OK to build that Mosque at Ground Zero.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7514285/Israel-spits-in-Obamas-eye-by-announcing-new-settlements-in-east-Jerusalem.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/24/barack-obama-israel-settlement-plan

Be wary, wary aware ....and wary, wary afraid...get prepared for more creeping sharia...more than what is coming out of the White House today


6 posted on 03/07/2011 4:11:17 AM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: RaceBannon

In the “my Muslim faith” gaffe interview with Stephanopoulas, Obama was quickly corrected by Stephanopoulas “you mean your Christian faith”.

What ever gaffe he pulls, the MSM glosses over it or “fixes” it, or ignores it.

I saw that particular interview AT THE TIME IT WAS DONE, and could hardly believe it.


7 posted on 03/07/2011 4:23:23 AM PST by Twinkie ( PEACE)
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To: robowombat

Saying Americans believe they have some heaven sent mandate to save the world sounds like an isolationist position popular with whichever party is not currently holding the presidency. After WW II the Japanese saved Japan and the Germans saved Germany. People should understand the best one can hope to achieve is establishing an environment conducive to governments lasting more than one generation.

I think we have an obligation to base our foreign relations on the intangibles which define the best aspects of our character, and move on to real politick reluctantly. Otherwise prosecuting national interests means making a deal for access to economic resources with the ruling elite of the ascendant tribe for a generation, when the next revolution comes along.


8 posted on 03/07/2011 3:08:59 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike
The purpose of nations is to advance the particular nation's interest or the interests as defined by the ruling class or group. There is nothing else. There is no moral order in the universe and those who believe in one are believing in the international version of the Easter Bunny. Real US security interests are involved in many of our actions. Unfortunately they are so deeply camouflaged by moralizing bafflegab that it can be difficult to find them. What on earth does it matter to most of us what the Iraqis do to each other absent its government being relentlessly hostile towards US interests? World saving or some sort of mandate of heaven was first identified after the Great Adventure of World War One when Americans started to ask what they had gotten out of it (quite a bit actually. We ended up with most of the world's gold supply and emerged immensely stronger economically than anyone else. But you weren't supposed to say anything that crude.)

The overwhelming pulverization of enemies in World War Two did give the US the opportunity to order the non communist world in a shape that it desired more than any nation before. Fixing security and economic arrangements so we could run the show is not Wilsonian globospeak but real politic disguised as moral crusading. It certainly was good for the US. If it helped others fine but that is incidental to me. We exist to help ourselves pure and simple and anything else is dangerous and delusional. (Although we have had plenty of those things in the history of our foreign policy.)

9 posted on 03/07/2011 3:42:59 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Warriors For Truth
The Muslim Brotherhood said it rejects U.S. intervention in Libya and the Libyan people can remove leader Mu'ammar Al-Qadhafi by itself, at whatever cost, and that freedom is a religious obligation that is dearer than life. Religious not Democratic obligation

To an Islamist, "freedom" is defined as living under Sharia.

10 posted on 03/07/2011 4:26:39 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: robowombat

Looks like we just have to disagree about the basis for foreign policy. I am going to stick with promoting individual natural rights independent of time and culture as the primary objective. For me governments that emerge from the tension and friction of many constituencies within an indigenous population provide the best protection against the paranoids (Stalin) and schizophrenics (Hitler). We should promote generous and open societies, which consistently identify selfless leadership. The United States fails in that regard the majority of the time now, but I am not going to abandon the principle.


11 posted on 03/07/2011 6:40:39 PM PST by Retain Mike
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