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1 posted on 03/06/2011 11:35:50 AM PST by Silverfiddle
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To: Silverfiddle

If somebody wants to find you and has the means at their disposal, they can, despite practically all precautions. It would have to be a specific effort, though. Generally speaking, anonymity is not a problem to maintain unless and until you warrant such a specific effort.


2 posted on 03/06/2011 11:40:43 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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I remember Stanley Fish, he was an English professor at a school in NC at one time and he was a major proponent of the Political Correctness movement back in the 1990’s !

Funny, some things don’t change much !


3 posted on 03/06/2011 11:48:50 AM PST by CORedneck
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But one of the heroes of the left, Deep Throat, had his anonymity maintained for over thirty years until it was claimed to be Mark Felt. (Personally I think that Deep Throat was an amalgam of multiple sources with some unsourced material thrown in).
4 posted on 03/06/2011 11:52:28 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: Silverfiddle

I think there’s a distinct difference between being anonymous to Joe Public, and being anonymous to Public Law.
The former is possible, and the latter is not.

Communication over the internet is NOTHING like communication in public. In public, you are physically protected by free speech laws (for now).
However, On the internet you are only protected by the quality and level of your internet security software. The same rights simply do not apply because they are not practically or effectively enforceable on the information superhighway.

Anyone who plans to engage in public debate or expression on the internet should understand this, and I think most do... so they take precautions to minimize their exposure to attacks. This is what the liberals do not like.


5 posted on 03/06/2011 12:11:39 PM PST by Safrguns
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They are not "liberals". They are for all intents and purposes fine with free speech as long as it's their speech and they are imposing it on you. To quote my favorite dictator Stalin.

Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let the people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?

6 posted on 03/06/2011 12:22:56 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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He employs the work of liberal thinkers who claim to be for free speech but then start throwing around concepts like "managing free speech" and coining terms like "low-value speech." When you hear Sunsteinian progressives talk like this, watch out!

The goal of the statists is to destroy intellectual freedom and economic freedom. Destruction of intellectual freedom can be achieved by restricting freedom of speech on the internet and radio. Destruction of economic freedom can be achieved by anti-trust laws.

7 posted on 03/06/2011 1:21:29 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Second, the author can produce no instance where bloggers in this "shame free zone" injured anyone. Why not? Because it's never happened! The few attempts I remember fell pretty flat. Palin rumors, Obama cocaine and gay sex stories, Christine O'Donnell's halloween sex adventure, Nikki Haley adultery... It's all been thrown out there, and there was no "there" there. None of these people were destroyed by anonymous, unsubstantiated claims.

Here's what they're REALLY talking about - - Dan Rather - and themselves.

In short these guys don't care if what Dan Rather said about President Bush was truth or lie - they wanted Rather's words to stand because HE WAS IN THE ELITE CLUB of the MSM. Period. So they make a case - and as you say - back it up with nothing.

They want the power and prestige of yesteryear - a time when their opponents weren't able to talk back to them. ( Well, except with 'letters to the editor' - with them deciding which ones to publish - based on "space available" - yeah that one's a lie too)

The New York Times doesn't get something important - if they had clamped down on the internet when everyone was scared stiff of not being PC it might have worked. But that cat is out of the bag forever... If I had to put my name and address on each comment I make, I would say the same thing. I am not intimidated by those who want THEIR elitist speech to count for more than mine.

The New York Times hates the fact that people who don't order ink by the trainload can still be heard. Eff 'em.

8 posted on 03/06/2011 1:35:06 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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"Progressives" whine and cry about internet bloggers or commentators being allowed to stay anonymous, thereby allowing themselves to escape public scrutiny concerning the veracity of their statements. They claim this is not fair as THEY have to back-up what they say by signing their name to it. Bunk.

Every fake scandal, every scurrilous attack on conservatives written by a progressive who proudly signs his or her name to the byline, always uses the source of their explosive mis-information as "Unnamed sources". "Sources deep within ....". "According to sources ...." then hide behind the First Amendment when told to name those "sources".

Frankly, I don't see the difference.

9 posted on 03/06/2011 1:37:14 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Why are public employee unions attacking taxpayers?)
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To: Silverfiddle

Well written ! Thanks.


11 posted on 03/06/2011 4:50:37 PM PST by jimt
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I get some points of your argument. The problem with the internet IS indeed anonymity. Anyone over 30 with common sense knows that the world was a better place before the internet became a big thing. There’s a lot about it that has improved lives drastically. But this doesn’t outweigh the bad. There are no moral or social implications to being anonymous. Anonymous speech invalidates the legitimacy of valid opinions of identifiable people. Everyone has an identity. I don’t just mean a name and social security number. Our faces identify us. There is a reason for it. Anonymity reduces us to nothing. Sure, many of us may or may not have enough common sense to overlook certain comments. But that doesn’t justify anonymity. Anonymity makes it possible to have child porn websites, let children act immoral on websites like Stickam, breed collective hatred on Topix.com, and those are only a few examples. If everyone walked an internet journey the way they would in public, they would be identifiable at all times. They would think before they acted. Imagine the number of flaming comments that would vanish from the earth. Think about the ratio of good to bad. People that had something bad to say likely wouldn’t say anything. We would see more good on the internet. Right now its a big pile of crap.


12 posted on 06/22/2011 8:51:42 PM PDT by jeffcarson
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Here in America the National Socialist Democrat Workers Party (Nationalsozialistische Democrat Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP or simply “the Nazi Party”, or even more simply “the Democrats”), use strongarm tactics to remove Christianity from public view, rewrite history, attack traditional cultural institutions like the nuclear family and the Boy Scouts, and destroy scientists and professors who do not toe the line with regard to Democrat doctrine on abortion, embryonic stem cells, evolution, religion, and “global warming”, etc.

Naturally, imposing rationed state-controlled health care on the masses and threatening to suppress opposing opinion through a “fairness doctrine” or some other means of "controlling" speech perfectly fits the modus operandi of Fuhrer Ubama and his handlers.

In other words, America’s Democrats are operating EXACTLY the same way the original version of their party operated in Germany in the 1930s.


13 posted on 06/22/2011 9:10:09 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I know a blogger who did some damage! Buckhead. ROTFLMAO at dan blather.


16 posted on 06/22/2011 9:41:20 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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...liberal thinkers who claim to be for free speech but then start throwing around concepts like "managing free speech" and coining terms like "low-value speech.

Some are more equal than others... /s

17 posted on 06/23/2011 8:45:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. - - Orwell)
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