[SatinDoll]

I’m going to throw my two cents in here: an English translation of Vattel’s book, Law of Nations, was available in 1791-1792. This would have made it available to non-french reading attendees at the creation of the U.S.Constitution.

[allmendream]

And in THOSE translations it was translated as “natives or indigenous”.

Only after the writing of the U.S. Constitution did English translations of Vattel change the translation to “natural born citizens”.

Vattel himself never used that term.

[Danae]

Thats true, but the founders had copies of the book for all the meetings and conferences when writing the constitution. A good many of them spoke and read french. Many of the founders, Ben Franklin is an example, was very very fluent.

Federalist number 76 by Hamilton ALSO refers to Vattels definition, an NBC is someone born to two parentS who were citizenS and that child was born upon the soil of the land. There could be ZERO question at all with regard to that childs citizenship status, and THAT is the ultimate gage that the founders sought.

They had ZERO interest in allowing someone to wiggle through on a loophole and get into the Office.

We as Americans should be ashamed for forgetting these basic tenant's, which are simple common sense concepts.

No one with ANY other citizenship possibility SHOULD be president. They sought to ensure that NO ONE ever would be. We failed them, it is up to us to rectify it.

The Cretin should be removed immediately.

[arrogantsob]

Hamilton was very familiar with Vattel, spoke fluent French and was the greatest lawyer of his day. Though he was not a natural born citizen he was still eligible to be president.