Posted on 02/16/2011 6:17:43 PM PST by Seizethecarp
O'Reilly began a segment tonight by saying that he did not believe the recent poll that showed that 51% of likely GOP primary voters didn't believe that Obama was born in HI. He offered up a different poll showing that 58% of Americans believed Obama was born in HI.
Rove came on and after admitting that Obama could end the birth certificate controversy immediately by simply releasing his birth records, Rove said the controversy benefited Obama.
Then both O'Reilly and Rove equated "birthers" with "truthers" and Ron Paul supporters and said they were on the Tea Party and GOP fringe.
When Rove said he was satisfied that Obama was born in HI and started to refer to the newspaper birth announcements, O'Reilly butted in and said (IIRC) "You got that from me. We broke that here first. We investigated that."
Ah, thanks for the details. I didn’t know that “Mark being the only inheritor” came from Ayers’ book. Well, I am merely an onlooker and should do more of that and less commenting when others are much more knowledgeable.
But Fred or someone else has posting things about Grandmother Sarah that also, to me, shed doubt on the whole Kezia marriage thing.
Basically, without seeing docummentation - lots of it - most of the truth about 0h0m0 is unknown. For instance, if he had an American citizen for a father and was born in HI or other part of the US, he is eligible. Even if still a disgusting liar etc. (Unless he did get formally adopting by Soetoro and renounced his citizenship, but that’s another whole situation.)
But until facts are made public backed up by evidence, we just don’t freaking know.
Oops - just wanted to add, if the part about Mark being the only inheritor was a lie invented by Ayers, it should be easy enough (well, could be) to find if it was the truth, but also, since Michelle said Barry’s mother was “very young and very single” and in Ayers’ book 0h0m0 supposedly is dubious about his (purported) parents’ actual marital status, it doesn’t make sense that the lie about Mark would have been inserted to shed legitimacy on the marriage.
You are obviously making a knee-jerk response to a headline and didn't see the show.
Here is BORs commentary on Soros showing how the left is going OTT:
Bill O'Reilly
For the first time in my life, the federal government is being held accountable for how it spends tax money.
In recent years, trillions of taxpayer dollars have flowed into Washington, and elected officials pretty much overspent on everything and provided little oversight on the gravy train. Meantime, most of us, the real folks, work hard for our money.
Now because of the debt crisis, federal spending is under siege. Over the next few years we can expect many government programs to be abolished, stuff like subsidies for PBS and NPR and funding for organizations like Planned Parenthood. Of course, that is angering some on the left.
Enter the uber-liberal George Soros and his MoveOn organization. They know they are under pressure. They know Planned Parenthood may lose federal funding, so here is their response:
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Only decades ago, women suffered through horrifying, back-alley abortions, or they used dangerous methods when they had no other recourse. So when the Republican Party launched an all-out assault on women's health pushing bills to limit access to vital services, we had to ask: Why is the GOP trying to send women back to the back alley? (END VIDEO CLIP) That ad, of course, is insane. Nobody is trying to send women to the back alley. If Planned Parenthood believes it is doing good for America, let it raise money privately. But you can see how emotional this budget debate is becoming. There is, of course, propaganda on both sides. But the MoveOn ad is a perfect illustration of the hysteria that is bubbling over the debt crisis. The question is: Will Americans respond to that kind of propaganda? Will politics once again stop fiscal reform? Roe v. Wade made abortion legal in the United States, and that is not going to be overturned any time soon. So using the issue to hammer fiscal reform is dishonest. The bottom line is the United States is broke. All of this nonsense has to stop. All non-essential government spending has to stop. Period. And that's "The Memo."
“The bottom line is the United States is broke. All of this nonsense has to stop. All non-essential government spending has to stop. Period.”
- Bill O’Reilly
“But until facts are made public backed up by evidence, we just don’t freaking know.”
Agreed!
I am of the impression that statement out of the mouth of Auma is in the book because it's true.
“He was best man at my wedding and I was best man at his,” said Malik, who likes to point out that his younger brother’s name is actually Barack Obama II, because their father was the original Barack Obama.
BUT IF MALIK WAS THE ELDEST SON OF KEZIA AND THE SON OF A KENYAN GOAT-HERDER, HOW COULD THAT BE TRUE?
It’s like trying to do a puzzle that has 1000 pieces only 75% or more are missing, some left are broken, many have the picture ripped off, and you suspect that some are from another puzzle.
Plus, you don’t have the box to see what the finished picture looks like.
Thank you, Fred Nerks. Your research is heroic.
“BUT IF MALIK WAS THE ELDEST SON OF KEZIA AND THE SON OF A KENYAN GOAT-HERDER, HOW COULD THAT BE TRUE?”
I don't see any contradiction.
The narrative is that Malik is the oldest son of Kezia and BHO Sr. and BHO II is Malik’s younger brother from the bigamous liaison with Dunham. BHO Sr. herded goats in his tribal village as a child in primary school before being educated by the missionaries in secondary school. None of this can be proved without transparency of documents in Kenya and HI and full access to witnesses in both places.
I do. And one day, when the penny drops, you will realize WHY Mark was the only one to inherit.
Jindal is not eligible, but you need to present links and evidence that both of Rubios’s parents were not citizens when he was born. I believe they were.
The “Truthers” believe a in a conspiracy that is so big that it dwarfs all other conspiracies to have come before it.
The “birthers” believe in something that could be disproven in 1 minute.
Let’s talk about what we KNOW:
We know that obama and his minions LIVE to crush their political enemies, discredit them and remove them from the stage.
If this muslim were to SHOW THE ACTUAL DOCUMENTATION that proved beyond ALL DOUBT he is what he says he is, he would DISCREDIT the entire Republican Party in the eyes of the media and his sheep.
The fact that he doesn’t choose this course speaks VOLUMES to me.
If you have found evidence that Rubio’s parents were both naturalized before he was born I would welcome it.
I have not been able to find evidence that Rubio has been forthcoming and transparent on this issue and I will be looking for documentary evidence.
The DailyK@$$ diarists are already mocking “birthers” for going easy on Rubio compared to Obama.
At least Rubio appears to be able to produce 1971 original vital records on request showing a US birth without lawyering up. Only SCOTUS can determine whether that alone makes him NBC and they haven't yet, IMO in an “on-point” case for Obama, Jindal or Rubio (assuming Obama was born in the USA...Ha!).
Good point. They knew they were going to get creamed in Nov 2010, but they still didn't show Obama’s 1961 HI vital records to “make a mockery of the birthers.”
So, Rove and O’Reilly, just how bad does the impending catastrophe for Obama have to get before he stops “playing” with the “birthers” and shows his ace in the hole (allegedly) exculpatory HI records?
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