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In GA poll, Cain outpolls Palin
Politico ^ | 2/4/2011 | Ben Smith

Posted on 02/04/2011 9:37:32 AM PST by LesDowrey

Herman Cain isn't a widely known figure, but he's long had a radio show on the conservative talk station WSB in Atlanta, and a new Georgia poll of 379 likely GOP primary voters pops up a surprising result:

Huckabee: 19% Gingrich: 18% Romney: 14% Cain: 14% Palin: 11% Pawlenty: 3% Barbour: 2% Daniels: 1% Some other candidate: 3%


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To: johncocktoasten
"I recall in the run up to the 2000 campaign, alot of the same criticism was leveled at bush...

First, I absolutely agree with you about McCain and why he started surging against Bush. McCain seemed more knowledgeable during the debates, and it was hurting Bush.

I think if algore wasn't such a wooden idiot himself, Bush's performance in those debates probably would have lost him the election. But, relative to algore, he did OK.

I keep going back to Reagan in 80. Reagan critics said that he was stupid, and irrational which would lead to a nuclear war with the Soviets. The conventional wisdom was that Carter would destroy Reagan in the debates, because the perception was Carter was that he was deeply erudite man. But, Reagan came out of those debates dripping of erudition - he seemed downright wonkish, with tremendous command of facts and policy specifics.

The difference between 1980 and today is one of saturation. Reagan, while known publicly for decades, both from entertainment and politics, wasn't as well understood nationally as Palin is today. Why? Because the ubiquity of media wasn't nearly as great then, as it is today. Palin has a MUCH greater mountain to climb than Reagan did. Reagan had more room to maneuver than Palin does.

Still, even if Palin doesn't improve her ability to talk policy, I think she can win the primary, mostly because of the McGovern effect I described to another poster. Her grass-roots support isn't going anywhere. She could lose the debates in stupefying fashion, and her supporters wouldn't abandon her. I think that is what scares Boortz, and it certainly scares me.

41 posted on 02/04/2011 12:12:43 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: LesDowrey
It's hilarious to see one story after another about how Palin has no chance.

Why publish such a story if it is true?

A loser gets no press because a loser is not viable.

42 posted on 02/04/2011 12:13:18 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (What this country needs is an enema.)
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To: OldDeckHand

I understand those concerns. First, Given how “in the weeds” she got in Alaska negotiating oil leases and working the pipeline deal out, I don’t doubt she can go there. At this point there just isn’t a political advantage to it. Additionally, she is still under contract with fox and thus can’t interview with anyone else. Even when she declares, media contact is going to be very tightly controlled. McCain and his dysfunctional minions did her a total disservice by not laying any ground rules for the interviews. Every Obama interview had tight controls with prescreened questions time limits etc. Palin was with couric for four or five hours, same with Gibson. Tremendous mistakes, all at the hands of the dipshits running the McCain campaign, namely Nicole Wallace.

Secondly, I believe complexity is the lawyers friend.For Many of the problems we have, the solutions are fairly simple, but require bold leadership. I believe that TODAY, she could take office and begin solving these problems.

And the election will be a referendum on Obama anyway so....

I personally believe, regardless of pu


43 posted on 02/04/2011 12:33:24 PM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: TinCan

“...I am in Georgia and I did not get a call for my take...”

Many Georgia women with whom I have crossed paths really dislike Palin.
The female culture is so different here...adjustment has been required for this transplanted female Texan.


44 posted on 02/04/2011 2:36:41 PM PST by texteacher
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...I polled Mrs. 2ndDivisionVet, Apollo the Dog, Sir Eats A Lot (My stepson) and the 8 Indian grad students across the hall. Palin won.

You're not from around here r u?

45 posted on 02/04/2011 5:47:34 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: texteacher
Many Georgia women with whom I have crossed paths really dislike Palin. The female culture is so different here...adjustment has been required for this transplanted female Texan.

Interesting that you would say that, my wife is another one that has not been impressed with Governor Palin.

46 posted on 02/04/2011 5:58:42 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Unfortunately, your explaination is correct.

Sarah Palin, inspite of her virtues and vices is, as far as the generalo voting public is concerned,is unelectable.

She was rendered that way by the vicious,constant, and for the most part, lying attacks by the Socialists main stream media. Along with assists by the Republican Party.

And while the Palin haters jump with joy and dance in the street with glee at the media’s demonization of Sarah, the plain unaldulterated and unvarnished truth is that any candidate the Republicans of Conservatives decide to run or nominate will, to one extent or another, get the same demonization.


47 posted on 02/04/2011 8:04:08 PM PST by sport
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To: LesDowrey

J-O-U-R-N-O-L-I-S-T . Just because it was outed, doesn’t mean it has been stopped.

More nonsense from the left in their throw out anyone against Palin and maybe something will stick propaganda campaign.


48 posted on 02/04/2011 8:10:27 PM PST by curth (SarahPac: Nearing 3 million Facebook members! Are you in for $20.12?)
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To: sport
"Conservatives decide to run or nominate will, to one extent or another, get the same demonization."

I would politely disagree, slightly.

You're right. Whomever (whoever?) is the Republican nominee, will SURELY get the FULL TREATMENT by the media machine. No doubt about it.

BUT, so long as they aren't perceived to be radical (like McGovern was, only on the right instead), I think they'll be able to withstand it, with one caveat: So long as they aren't painted as "stupid", or at least so long as it doesn't stick.

For example, let's take Jim DeMint. DeMint could not be described as anything other than an orthodox conservative - fiscal conservative, judicial conservative, foreign policy conservative and social conservative. In every aspect, he's conservative. BUT, he's not crazy. He comes across as solidly reasonable guy. An advocate yes, but not out of touch with the mainstream (again, unlike McGovern). DeMint, again by any measure, is a very bright man. He could go toe-to-toe with even the most hostile media interviewer and win. Why or How? Because he's spent a fair enough amount of time in deliberative bodies where he's had to learn how to debate equally adept opponents.

It would be impossible, no matter how hard they tried, to paint DeMint as an idiot.

I think that's true of virtually all the other candidates, even the ones I don't necessarily like - Huckabee, Gingrich, Romney, Thune, Pawlenty, Barbour - they all have policy (or character) shortcomings, but they also are all very bright, articulate and reasonable guys.

49 posted on 02/04/2011 8:15:44 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Thank you for responding and explaining.


50 posted on 02/04/2011 8:22:08 PM PST by sport
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To: LesDowrey

BUMP for the Hermanator


51 posted on 02/05/2011 12:15:46 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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