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To: Jude in WV
Not the National Archives, which is for government documents. The Library of Congress has the microfilm for both papers. The Hawaii and California State Libraries, the University of Hawaii Library and New York Public Library have one or the other or both of the two main papers on microfilm. The Hawaiian State Archives has one in the original paper format.

There was a big controversy a few years back about libraries "deacessioning" (getting rid of) the big bound copies of the original papers that used to be such an important part of their collection, in favor of microfilm. Novelist and crank Nicholson Baker wrote articles and a book about the practice and saved many of the bound library volumes from the incinerator or landfill.

Keeping the original bound copies would make later forgeries harder, but articles like this one jump the gun. If someone is going to go to the trouble to write and make public an article like this, why not take the extra step of at least finding other copies of the microfilm -- if not the original paper -- before wasting everyone's time on wild speculation?

314 posted on 02/07/2011 3:55:04 PM PST by x
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To: x; Ladysforest

The Hawaii State Archives don’t have the paper copies. All the libraries we were able to check have evidence of microfilm tampering. Couldn’t get a straight answer on whether the NY Public Library even has the dates in question. Microfilms in some places (such as CA State Library and the Hilo library) are being removed from public access.

What is in this article right now is the very tip of the iceberg of the research that exists and the problems with these alleged announcements.

I don’t get mad very easily but I need to say that I am angry that you are calling this “wild speculation”, as if I haven’t spent the last year of my life doing the very things you say I should do before publishing something like this. I’m pinging your comment to another lady who has invested more than you will ever know, and I suggest you plug your ears when she responds. But I do want you to know that you will deserve everything she gives you because you act as if you know what we have and haven’t done when you don’t know jack about what we’ve done.

I have documented in this first part that the stories we were told are bullshit. How do you refute what I have documented?


321 posted on 02/07/2011 4:26:35 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: x

,,,before wasting everyone’s time on wild speculation?,,,

ooops,,you just stepped in it big time....say where are the passport records for Stanley Ann Dunham? How did some of them disappear? People tried to get them, over two years and lawsuit to find out some were destroyed. Could the destruction be a coincidence, wild speculation of govt conspiracy, or the truth?

Why don’t you get your library to buy a copy from Bell and Howell Information Services now known as Pro Quest? Waste some of your time.

http://www.proquest.com/en-US/products/brands/pl_umi.shtml

Might get to the bottom of the announcements, unless of course John Brennan has gotten there first...


324 posted on 02/07/2011 4:46:56 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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