Posted on 02/03/2011 4:21:18 PM PST by butterdezillion
The HSL didn’t have digital microfilm scanners. Nice try.
Not for public use, but do you really think they don't have access to the technology?
Do you really the librarian is going to go get the microfilm and make a copy of this page everytime somebody asks for one?
I wouldn't be surprised if they had the page scanned and saved to save wear on the microfilm, since there's such a demand to see it.
Certainly it's more likely than a conspiracy theory.
Social Security Death Index has
Name: Orland Scott Lefforge
SSN: 315-01-5270
Last Residence: 96821 Honolulu, Honolulu, Hawaii
Born: 31 Jul 1915
Died: 4 Jul 2007
State (Year) SSN issued: Indiana (Before 1951)
Searches for Thelma Jones, Thelma Lefforge, Thelma Young, Thelma Jones Lefforge or a search for a Thelma who died June 12, 2008 in Hawaii show any hits.
Have you bothered to read the article I wrote? The Hawaii State Librarian suggested that a researcher get copies from a different library because the HSL’s microfilms are nearly unreadable. If she had the ability to magically make those scratches disappear why would she send somebody to a different library?
You’re trying your darnedest to make this seem like a crazy conspiracy theory but you’re not fooling anybody. It’s painfully obvious that you just don’t want to accept what’s in front of your eyes.
Results for: Thelma Young
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Death/Burial, 2008, Hawaii, United States
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U.S. Social Security Death Index
1. Thelma YOUNG - U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 24 Feb 1917 State Where Number was Issued: New Jersey Death: 28 Jun 2008
Matches: U.S. Social Security Death Index - 1
That’s the Family Search result, I wanted to query the date of June 12, 2008, as supplied by another freeper in a previous comment, unfortunately no source was provided.
SOURCE OF AN ALTERNATIVE DATE OF DEATH FOR THELMA - OBITUARY QUOTED, NO SOURCE LINK PROVIDED:
Obituary from Honolulu Advertiser:
Orland Scott Lefforge - July 4, 2007
Orland Scott Lefforge, 91, of Honolulu, a University of Hawaii professor, died in Kaiser Medical Center. He was born in Pettisville, Ohio. He is survived by companion Thelma Young, son Daniel, daughters Andrea Harper and Mia Blake, brother Marian, three grandchildren and a great-grandchild. Services: 11 a.m. next Saturday at the courtyard of George Hall, University of Hawaii at Manoa. Casual attire.
His wife/companion Thelma Jones Lefforge Young died June 12, 2008. This obituary should be checked too. Coincidentally, the original forgery of the COLB was edited in Photoshop on June 12, 2008 08:13.
http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=166#166
Kenyan Parliament website scrubs November 2008 Minutes which confirm Obama as “son of this soil”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2493777/posts
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scroll down here
Kenyan Parliament minutes states and acknowledge that Obama was BORN IN KENYA!
Here are some of the important snips;
http://www.obamanotqualified.com/obama_birth_born_in_kenya_evidence.htm
Did you get a Freepmail from me? (Just making sure; sometimes my various kinds of mail don’t work. I had an e-mail swallowed today so if it was you you’ll have to re-send it.)
The degree of magnification and type of reproduction also make a difference. It might help if you showed an example of a microfilm copy you found “pristine” or “unreadable.”
yes, please.
I think you need a new computer. I have an iMac and I don’t worry about viruses, etc. and it plays all the videos you have been missing.
New they are just over $1100, but you can pick up used ones for half that.
I’ll bet if you set up a page asking freepers to paypal you a dollar you’d have it in no time. The name sounds gross but it’s called cyber begging.
Set it up and I’ll paypal you ten bucks. It’s worth it just to read your posts, and who knows where it can lead. Frog marched in an orange jump suit would be nice. :)
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I think you need a new computer. I have an iMac and I don’t worry about viruses, etc. and it plays all the videos you have been missing.
New they are just over $1100, but you can pick up used ones for half that.
I’ll bet if you set up a page asking freepers to paypal you a dollar you’d have it in no time. The name sounds gross but it’s called cyber begging.
Set it up and I’ll paypal you ten bucks. It’s worth it just to read your posts, and who knows where it can lead. Frog marched in an orange jump suit would be nice. :)
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BZ:
Are there birth announcements for the Nordike twins? The current meme from the afterbirthers is the health department gave the lists to the papers every Friday, so BO’s family couldn’t have placed his.
The Nordyke twins’ announcement doesn’t appear in the Star-Bulletin anywhere, although they appear in the Advertiser. The lists between the 2 papers are not identical in any way, shape, or form. There are people whose births were announced in one paper 3 weeks after they were announced in the other paper. There are people (like Nordykes) who made it in one paper but not the other.
Based on the analysis I’ve done of all the August births reported, if the Star-Bulletin only published Oahu births (which is the kindest way to explain the numbers in support of the announcements coming from the HDOH office), 26% of the August births on Oahu were not included in the S-B announcements. If you exclude an estimated 100 illegitimate births (There were 1,044 in all of HI for all of 1961 according to the CDC’s 1961 Natality Report) that might not have been reported for embarrassment reasons, that still leaves 18% of all August 1961 births on Oahu unreported. If the papers printed a complete listing of all Hawaii births that percentage would be even higher.
And I may as well say here, also, that there are signs that the microfilm having the Nordyke announcement has been changed out since the first images appeared also. The first images that appeared were sent to somebody by the Hawaii State Library librarian (just like the images for Obama’s announcements), and just like the Obama announcements, marks that were on that image from the librarian are now missing from that microfilm at the HSL. The marks show up even when the actual announcement is placed at the top of the viewer-copier and when it is placed at the bottom, so the marks cannot be from the viewer or copier but from the actual microfilm itself.
So there are not clean-cut lists that show up in both papers identically. The only reason the lists for the Aug 13th Advertiser and Aug 14th Star-Bulletin appear to be identical is because the Star-Bulletin image was enlarged so that the only announcements that showed were the ones that were also in the Advertiser. In reality there were 26 more announcements in the Aug 14th Star-Bulletin that didn’t make it into the Aug 13th Advertiser.
Anybody who actually looked at those microfilms would have easily seen that, which leads me to believe that the Advertiser reporter Will Hoover did not look in the Advertiser’s microfilms and make those copies himself but was given them by somebody else. Either that, or he deliberately lied about the lists being identical in order to claim the lists were from the HDOH office.
The lies we were told were not just about where the images came from. These people were absolutely counting on nobody actually going and checking out the actual microfilms because they pulled so many fast ones on the general public it’s not even funny. Hopefully the truth can eventually come out where even folks like Bill O’Reilly have to grasp it.
We know O’Reilly is going to say he doesn’t believe in conspiracies.
Was it a conspiracy when Sandy Berger removed documents from the National Archives? Who believes he did it on his own?
Well, the documents ended up in his pants so maybe it was just an accident involving Barney Frank. lol
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