Posted on 02/02/2011 9:00:05 PM PST by 6ft2inhighheelshoes
Rust, loss of China's total wheat crop, and 1/4 of Russia's wheat crop definitely busted the top out of the price structure.
I agree that it’s a stretch to blame ethanol. However, the rush to crappy fuel at the expense of food certainly did not help. In decades past, when one or two major wheat producers suffered poor crops the others usually made up some of the slack.
That is not true today. While I don’t think it would have prevented what we are witnessing over there it definitely has not helped. Ethanol is crappy fuel and a crappy idea brought to us by the same folks that have promoted hazardous mercury filled lightbulbs, craptastic electric cars, non-performing wind power, and the list goes on.
Can you elaborate a bit? China lost their entire wheat crop?
The Green movement is at the root of many of the financial problems that our country is now facing and the next one looming on the horizon is a self imposed food shortage based on cockamamie green ideas. Burning food in cars is a horrible idea and will most certianly have bad consequences in one way or another.
While I think that ethanol is stupid, ethanol had nothing to do with the rise in commodity prices, it was the weather.
Crops are lost every year but this year China and India have become upwardly mobile and are putting pressure on commodities at the same time that the weather has wreaked havoc on crops.
“The rise in the price of wheat has hurt Americans. Particularly working families. But it has hurt the Muslim world far more. With the Obama Administration’s continued commitment to ethanol subsidies, wheat prices are likely to keep on rising. And even with a Republican congress, that may not change significantly, because subsidies develop an interest based appeal of their own. Iowa is a swing state and ethanol is big business. The ethanol tax credit and tariff went through the Senate in December at 81 to 19 and 277 to 148 in congress. Throw in a cold winter and wheat prices are only going to keep rising.”
WTF? Ethanol is made from corn. We don’t grow wheat here for the most part because we don’t get the snow as consistently as we used to. Well at least till recently anyway. They do some more up north but Iowa isn’t a wheat state. Even in the old days it was on a 3 year rotation. Iowa was never a wheat producer like the plains.
And the truth is so easily seen:
http://www.ers.usda.gov/data/wheat/YBtable01.asp
The other thing that frosts me about this BS is that about 50% of the field corn in the US is used for animal feed.
Which, BTW, how the distillers’ grain left over after fermentation is used: as animal feed, for the same cows.
There is no net loss of “food value” from using corn for ethanol.
You are very incorrect...ethanol is a cleaner burning fuel and engines last longer with it. Henry Ford’s cars were originally built for it mainly...until the discovery of cheap oil. It does have slightly less economy when burned, but there are things that can be done to bring that efficiency up higher. And there is plentiful land for growing fuel...along with vegy oil for diesels. Done on a larger and larger scale, and we will be paying a lot less than gas. electric cars too, with the newer lithium batteries are awesome and much more efficient than a gas engine with incredibly less maintenance. You sound like you earn your living in the oil industry.
You might want to check with your local small engine repairman or marine engine mechanic before u consume anymore of that kool-aide...you're in for a big surprise
The Model T had fuel economy on the order of 13 to 21 mpg The engine was capable of running on petrol, kerosene, or ethanol, though the decreasing cost of petrol and the later introduction of Prohibition made ethanol an impractical fuel. E85 summer blend is 85% ethanol 15% gasoline; E85 winter blend is 70% ethanol 30% gasoline. The use of E85 is low but common in the 12 Midwestern States.
Deporting their citizens and refusing them visas to civilized countries would probably cause revolutions too.
My hope is that if the Muzzies are going to keep their undies in a bunch, that they go find ways to have civil wars and fight oneanother. Keep us the heck out of it!
Ethanol will eventually have residue build up and it’s consistency will lead to a type of varnish. Cannot imagine that will be good for any type of engine.
Ethanol will eventually have residue build up and it’s consistency will lead to a type of varnish. Cannot imagine that will be good for any type of engine.
So I would not trust the story!
2. lack of water for irrigation (see all the canals to major cities)
3. Lack of rainfall in agricultural areas ..blamed on huge areas covered with windmills for electric power generation.
The US turning food into gas has harmed the global food supply. It did not help offset the low production of food world wide right now.
However, all this is a warning to Americans. With the interdependency of the global economic system, no country is in control of their own fates. When we depend upon foreigners for basic necessities we are walking a tight rope of power’s loving kindness and honor. There is no loving kindness and honor in power!
In addition we are asking for rage from foreigners whose politicans can blame others for shortages and create the winds of war and retaliation.
Really? And petrol does not have tremendous carbon build up? Ever seen an engine that runs on gas torn apart after years of sevice? That black carbon is like cement. I understand that alcohol burns much cleaner and I can give you evidence of it’s superiority. Maybe you are the one with the cool aide!
Thank you...how are you? Are you really a cowgirl?
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