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To: jamese777

There’s nothing the least bit “parsed” about: “AND THAT’S JUST A FACT.” “IT’S BEEN ESTABLISHED.” “HE WAS BORN HERE.”


You seem to be of the opinion that those birth announcements serve as historical proof of establishing Hawaii as Obama’s birthplace (despite the fact that these were discovered by a dem operative and no one can vouch for the integrity of the films being housed at the various libraries), what about the interview of Sarah Obama stating that she was there in the hospital in Mombasa when he was born. Or how about this article...is this any less substantive than what has been discovered to prove Obama was born in Hawaii?

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/01/atty-mario-apuzzo-cdr-kerchner-will-be.html


99 posted on 01/10/2011 8:03:36 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Ping to you!!

You brought back several great articles about Obama being born in Kenya,Kenyan BC... Also at that site the Tom Fife Government Contractor in 1992 Who stated The World Elitist picked Obama long before the voters..... No media would carry this until election night when some radio show intervied him.

This man is a Physicist with high Government Clearence not a crackpot
This plays into my comment #81 Obama as Malcom-X “Legacy”

Thanks for the links..... There were actually 4 or 5 Articles from African Newspapers claiming that Obama was from Kenya, Africa in the past when she ran for the Senate


102 posted on 01/10/2011 8:47:51 AM PST by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

You seem to be of the opinion that those birth announcements serve as historical proof of establishing Hawaii as Obama’s birthplace (despite the fact that these were discovered by a dem operative and no one can vouch for the integrity of the films being housed at the various libraries), what about the interview of Sarah Obama stating that she was there in the hospital in Mombasa when he was born. Or how about this article...is this any less substantive than what has been discovered to prove Obama was born in Hawaii?

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/01/atty-mario-apuzzo-cdr-kerchner-will-be.html


I’m of the opinion that the birth notices are not primary evidence. The actual birth records at the Hawaii Department of Health are primary evidence and birth records are self-authenticating documents under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedures.
Newspaper birth notices are corroborating evidence.

If there was to be a grand jury investigation, the birth notices could be introduced as evidence and there would be an opportunity to cross examine and impeach the testimony of representatives of the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulliten on their authenticity. The internet posted scanned copies of those notices are irrelevant when it is possible to get neutral testimony from library officials and other witnesses on whether they are real or fake.

If there was ever to be a grand jury investigation, Sarah Obama can be called to testify as to her previous statements. The Mombassa birth story has already taken a huge hit with the quick exposure as a forgery of that fake birth certificate of an Australian man.
“Kenyan Mistake:” http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

Articles on websites are always “less substantive” than the actual testimony of government officials. Since it is well known that former Governor Lingle is a Republican who endorsed John McCain for president, campaigned for Senator McCain against Barack Hussein Obama and gave an endorsement speech for Governor Sarah Palin at the Republican National Convention, the fact that Governor Lingle is 100% convinced that Obama was born at Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii is going to be very difficult to challenge in a court of law or before a congressional committee. Governor Lingle is backed up by the Director of Health in her administration and the Registrar of Vital Records who have both seen the original Obama birth records.

While I have no way to prove it, I’m personally convinced that Governor Lingle’s statements are the primary reason that Speaker of the House John Boehner just said: “Hawai’i says that the president was born there. That’s good enough for me.”


103 posted on 01/10/2011 8:49:35 AM PST by jamese777
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