Posted on 01/03/2011 2:35:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
For reasons clear to no one just yet, Hawaii's new Democrat governor, Neil Abercrombie, has gone public with his desire to silence the so-called "birthers" with proof of Barack Obama's Hawaiian birth.
"Maybe I'm the only one in the country," Abercrombie told the Los Angeles Times just before Christmas, "that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, 'I was here when that baby was born.'"
A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didn't exactly see Obama's parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he "remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events."
Although the major media have questioned why Abercrombie would raise an issue that, according to the Los Angeles Times, "most people see as resolved," they take Abercrombie at his word as to what he knows about the young Obama family.
They shouldn't. Abercrombie's boasts about his relationship with the president's presumed parents, Barack Obama, Sr. and Ann Dunham, have got to unnerve the president and his close advisors. They know something the media perversely choose not to know: Abercrombie is remembering a past that never happened.
A member of the House's progressive caucus before his election as governor, Abercrombie has been talking excitedly about the relationship for years, playing John the Baptist to Obama's Jesus.
"Little Barry, that's what we called him," Abercrombie told the Chicago Tribune while "recalling his days with Obama Sr. and his future wife, Ann Dunham, at the University of Hawaii." If Obama were born on August 4, 1961, however, there could not have been many such days.
As is thoroughly documented, Ann and little Barry were in Seattle two weeks later, where she enrolled at the University of Washington. By the time she returned to Hawaii in late summer or fall 1962, Barack Sr. had left for Harvard for good.
Citing Abercrombie as source, a 2007 Hawaii TV news report claimed that Ann "became estranged from her husband, Barack Obama[,] Sr., after his departure for Harvard." I don't know about Hawaii, but in Missouri, if you flee your husband with baby in tow two weeks after his birth, that qualifies as "estrangement."
According to divorce papers filed in 1964, Barack Sr. and Ann married in Wailuku, Maui on February 2, 1961. But one has to wonder whether it was a marriage in anything but name, or whether there was a marriage at all. Obama himself writes in Dreams, "In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I've never quite had the courage to explore."
No one attended the wedding -- not Abercrombie, not Ann's parents. In fact, no one in Barack Sr.'s clique seemed to know there was a relationship, let alone a wedding. Neil's brother Hal never saw Ann and Barack Sr. together. Another clique member, Pake Zane, who had distinct memories of Barack Sr., could not recall Ann at all. When Neil Abercrombie and Zane visited their friend in Nairobi in 1968, Barack Sr. shocked them by never once inquiring about his putative wife and 6-year-old son.
The 17-year-old Ann had met the 24 year-old Barack Sr. in Russian class at the University of Hawaii. Why they were studying Russian (in 1960, people like Lee Harvey Oswald studied Russian) is a question for another day. In Dreams, Ann provides only the sketchiest detail of their first date -- Barack Sr. came an hour late and with friends -- and nothing more.
A high school friend of Ann's claims to have received a letter or two from Ann in which she spoke about Barack Sr., and there is no reason to doubt her. But beyond this, there is no evidence of a relationship, and the only evidence for the marriage are the divorce papers, which are real and have been posted online.
One reason people marry in a county other than their own -- Maui County, for instance -- is to keep the announcement of the marriage license out of the local paper. By claiming a Maui wedding, and perhaps even attaining a Maui license, the Dunhams could have assured the baby an identity without drawing attention to the relationship.
If Obama had, in fact, been born out of wedlock, or if his father had been someone other than Barack Sr., that would not have affected Obama's eligibility for higher office, but it would have surely de-glamorized him. "Barry Dunham" does not exactly tease the imagination.
Whatever his contribution, Obama Sr. lent young Barry a name, an identity, and a romantic storyline. Obama's mother and grandparents sustained this narrative throughout Obama's childhood.
Barack Obama repeated this story in his memoir Dreams from My Father, and to good effect. When Obama hooked up with campaign guru David Axelrod in his 2004 race for the U.S. Senate, his story crystallized into a marketing strategy. In the retelling, little Barry is always two years old when Barack Sr. reluctantly leaves wife and son for Harvard. This is a lie.
Guided by Axelrod, Obama held off in his breakthrough keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic convention for all of 46 words -- including "Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much" -- before sharing his story with the world.
At the 2008 Democratic Convention in Denver, Obama leaped into the story in the very first sentence. "Four years ago," he began, "I stood before you and told you my story -- of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren't well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to."
In between the two convention speeches, the story of Obama's birth was told more often than that of anyone's since Jesus. No one, of course, told it as convincingly as Obama himself, especially in his game-saving Philadelphia speech, immodestly titled "A More Perfect Union."
In this speech, delivered to negate the baleful impact of the Jeremiah Wright videos, Obama attributed his faith in the American people to his "own American story." He reminded those few registered voters who might somehow have forgotten that "I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas." Although the proto-hippie Ann spent her formative teen years in Seattle, the storyline always places her in Kansas.
Obama and his operatives would invest enormous political capital in what sympathetic biographer David Remnick calls his "signature appeal: the use of the details of his own life as a reflection of a kind of multicultural ideal." From the beginning, they worked hard to protect the investment and did what they had to do to keep the storytellers in line.
Abercrombie may not have gotten the memo. Although the president was likely born in the United States, he may not have been born in Hawaii, he may not have been born in August 1961, he may not have been the son of Barack Sr., or he may have simply been listed as "white" on his birth certificate.
The truth is that the storied little family never lived together. Any fact that blew the storyline could have derailed Obama's candidacy before it got going. Expect the Abercrombie fuss to just sort of fade away.
“A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didn’t exactly see Obama’s parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he ‘remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at SOCIALIST events.’”
If this was done intentionally he is playing a dangerous game. Any way you slice it, Abercrombie is a fool. To put such large stakes on a fool who may or may not play his role on cue is — a fool’s game.
I’m sure the rhetoric coming from the Obama regime now is TRYING to play us...but I don’t think Abercrombie’s comments were planned.
I am not sure yet that Abercrombie, or Chris Matthews, blundered. The Obamunists may believe they have an analysis proof Birth Certificate and need to set up a release.
Did you take this picture? It’s Right down the street from where we live.
According to divorce papers filed in 1964, Barack Sr. and Ann married in Wailuku, Maui on February 2, 1961. But one has to wonder whether it was a marriage in anything but name, or whether there was a marriage at all. Obama himself writes in Dreams, “In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I’ve never quite had the courage to explore.”
No one attended the wedding — not Abercrombie, not Ann’s parents. In fact, no one in Barack Sr.’s clique seemed to know there was a relationship, let alone a wedding. Neil’s brother Hal never saw Ann and Barack Sr. together. Another clique member, Pake Zane, who had distinct memories of Barack Sr., could not recall Ann at all. When Neil Abercrombie and Zane visited their friend in Nairobi in 1968, Barack Sr. shocked them by never once inquiring about his putative wife and 6-year-old son.
There is NO record of a wedding ... only her say-so.
“’I was here when that baby was born.’”
Hey Abercrombie, guess what? I was here too when that baby was born.
Yeah, I was born a year or so before Barack Obama, which means, I was here too, just like you and a few million other people. If that is a correct quote from Abercrombie, it is ridiculous, so he says he was here. The statement says nothing and requires a lot of inference from his other statements, such as he saw them together at social events with the child. Which seems to be false since the baby left Hawaii at abt 3wks of age.
“Gov. Abercrombie, have you ever knowingly thrown human feces at returning Vietnam Vets, as reported in a Honolulu newspaper?”
YES.
Spread the word.
First Clinton and now Obama. What is it about the Dems putting trailer trash into the White House?
‘cuz they are all trailer trash???
but what if instead she was the sister, pushed into allowing the family to raise this kid and save face for Madelyn, by becoming the “mother” of Stan Dunham's bastard son? Madelyn's “grandson”, her daughter “married” to an exotic African exchange student to preserve the family "honor", and shuffled off to Washington State 2 weeks after his birth to avoid prying eyes and questions, no less
And little Barry sent “home” to Hawaii from Indonesia at age 10 .... to be raised by his “grandparents”
No wonder Frank Marshall Davis who shared whiskey, porn, marxist pipe dreams and whores in the honolulu red light district with Stan Dunham, so often stared at little Barry Sutoro with his drunken rheumy eyes.
I think Cashill alludes to other possibilities of the parentage of “Barry Dunham”
My favorite theory: Barry’s real father is Frank Davis, blak Communist radical and buddy of Grandpa Dunham. Davis had a documented fondness for young girls. Davis was married, and so could not marry Ann. What to do? Offer Obama Sr a sham “green card” marriage in order to give Barry an official father.
My guess is that he probably got her drunk, took her to a faux justice of the peace to reassure her it was okay for them to bed by pretending to marry her and oops! Barry happened. If it was a faux marriage, she may not have know it and really believed they were married. Or maybe the JP didn’t file the record. Kind of reminds me of a movie storyline. By the way has anyone checked into JP’s and ministers in the area who could have married them. The record maybe tucked away somewhere forgotten to be sent to the state.
No wonder Barry wouldn’t want his daughters punished with a baby, looked what happened to his mama.
Little Barry, (son of) Obama Sr. and his future wife. Huh?
So Obama Sr. and Ann weren't married when "Little Barry" was born? What about the newspaper announcement, stating "Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama" had given birth to a son?
Oh, that "Mr. and Mrs. Obama" may have been referring to Barack Sr and his first wife, a woman in Kenya who he was still married to when his second (read bigamist) "wife" Ann allegedly gave birth to "Little Barry."
Did Ann "marry" Obama Sr., in order to get Obama's Kenyan son into the U.S.? She could have claimed the child as her own in order to get it U.S. citizenship.
I am told of an adoption scam in which American women would travel to a foreign country, pick up a child there, and claim to have given birth to it abroad. They could then bring the child into the U.S. without going through all the red tape.
Was Barack Obama Jr. an "anchor baby" son of Barack Obama Sr. and his first wife, who was still married to him and in Kenya at the time of Barry's "birth" in Hawaii?
Possible scenario, circa 1961:
1. Barack Obama Sr. commissions his classmate, Stanley Ann Dunham, to "adopt" his Kenyan child and bring it to the U.S. so that it can have U.S. citizenship.
2. Ms. Dunham agrees and travels to Kenya.
3. Obama Sr's real (first) wife gives birth to Obama Sr's son (Barack Jr.) in a Mombasa hospital.
4. While in Kenya, Ann obtains documents that identify herself as the child's mother. (In Kenya, Muslim men are allowed to have more than one wife.)
5. Ann brings the child to the U.S., claiming it to be her own.
6. A birth announcement is placed in the Honolulu Advertiser stating that a "son" was born to Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama.
7. Barack Sr. and Ann complete the "paperwork" to insure that Little Barry has U.S. citizenship.
I think Abercrombie is probably like a more demented Joe Biden. He just gets a wild hare from time to time and opens mouth and inserts foot. Its all good as long as it keeps the birth certificate issue alive and kicking. Obama must have been horrified when old Neil said he was going to release more birth information.
According to Bam Bam in his book “Dreams From My Father” he found his birth certificate in a book one day. So he could dust that bad boy off any day of the week and show it around. But he is not going to.
This has always been the official story but it has never made sense to me. If the marriage had been real at the time Obama Sr left for Harvard, she would have gone with him. In Dreams, Obama claims Harvard would only provide enough money for dad, but this is a flimsy explanation. Ann was bright and hard-working. She could have accompanied Sr to Cambridge and found a job there had she wanted to be with the guy.
I think Abercrombie is probably like a more demented Joe Biden. He just gets a wild hare from time to time and opens mouth and inserts foot. Its all good as long as it keeps the birth certificate issue alive and kicking. Obama must have been horrified when old Neil said he was going to release more birth information.
According to Bam Bam in his book “Dreams From My Father” he found his birth certificate in a book one day. So he could dust that bad boy off any day of the week and show it around. But he is not going to.
Does getting high in a pot house count as a “social event” in Hawaii?
Why hasn’t he shown the bc yet? That was last weeks news and they still have not produced even a sloppy piece of paper.
The Director of Health has statuatory control of the actual document and since there has been regime change in Hawai’i, there are new deputy sheriffs riding in to town.
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