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To: daisy mae for the usa
Well, let me ask you this. Do you think someone born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S., is a natural born citizen eligible to be President regardless of whether or not both of their parents were citizens? Because to me, that is the only fair interpretation of the 14th Amendment, regardless of what the Founder intended 80 years previously.

Because it is one thing to argue generalized intents and policies, and the wisdom of letting someone like Obama become President. Maybe simply being born here shouldn't be enough, but as a people governed by a written Constitution, we should abide by what it says, not by what we wish it said.

Now of course, that still leaves the issue of whether Obama really was born in Hawaii. But leaving that aside for the moment, I'm just trying to figure out what your position is regarding people who were born in the U.S., but who had at least one parent not a citizen of the United States.

558 posted on 01/06/2011 10:16:03 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

So you are still pushing the line that the Founders intended, via the NBC, to include the children of foreigners as potential POTUSs. Bruce, now I see why you avoided my original question. Please go back and read it, and then tell me with a straight face that the Founders intended any kind of foreigner, however malicious, subversive, overtly ANTI-American and malignant (toward everything good and singular about the USA) to spawn a child with an underage citizen, and then that offspring, being predictably hostile to everything traditionally American, to go on to be POTUS. And don’t tell me the 14th amendment changed anything. It refers to citizenship, not eligibility.


559 posted on 01/06/2011 10:26:34 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

You are avoiding my question which ended my last post. I think I have been clear on where I stand. You have been asked if people born on American soil to one or two NON-citizen parents SHOULD, repeat SHOULD, not -can- but SHOULD, be allowed to occupy the office of the Presidency. Will you answer this question?

But to be very clear, I agree with fantasywriter, the 14th amendment addresses citizenship in general but not the term “Natural Born Citizen” in particular used in reference to the presidency.

I also agree with you in that the way things currently stand, wording can be “CONSTRUED” to be vague. Cultural Marxists will seek to build on vagueness to further the watering down of established ideas. You aren’t a cultural marxist are you?

Please, in your next response, address the end question of my last post.


560 posted on 01/06/2011 10:36:08 AM PST by daisy mae for the usa
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