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To: RummyChick; james777
The Indonesian thingamabob is just another "red herring." That is an element of confusion and dust in the eyes of those following the trail.

If Obama were an American Citizen by virtue of birth in Hawaii, any subsequent shenanigans by Stanley and Lolo could not remove that from him. Yes, Lolo could have signed him up for an Indonesian passport, or even Indonesian Citizenship. He adopted him? Still does not remove his American citizenship, if that part of the legend is true.

However as an adult, if he were actually of Hawaiian birth and had a valid Hawaiian BC, he could claim American citizenship. All of this fou-faraw has NOTHING to do with "Natural Born Citizenship." At best, if all he says about Hawaii is true, all he CAN be is a NATIVE born citizen.

One nexus of the legal battle is the question, is a NATIVE a NATURAL? I say "No." Lots of other people say "Yes." What counts is what the SCOTUS says ...some day soon, may it please the Lord.

148 posted on 01/01/2011 9:58:52 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive fools in office. It cannot long survive the fools who elect them.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The Indonesiasn thingamabob is crucial to this whole scenario because it helps put the pieces together....

People can argue the merits of Native and Natural Born until they are blue in the face..but NOTHING is ever going to happen to Obama that his handlers don’t want to happen. Clinton is just as tight with Soros as Obama.

All you have to do is start with the fact that his history is full of lies, and black holes, and weird stories...and black holes..and realize that there aren’t too many people that could accomplish that. Not even the Russians.

From there..you just have to fit in the pieces as best as you can.

It should no longer be about where Obama was born.

It should be the WHO is doing this to us and WHY????

And what can someone do to stop it.

And it won’t be a court that will stop it.

It will have to be an insider.

Obama is a product of the CIA. Whether or not HE worked with them is unclear. But it sure looks like his family was involved with the spooks.


150 posted on 01/01/2011 10:15:21 AM PST by RummyChick
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