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To: Kenny Bunk

IMHO, the laws that have been proposed to this point would not change anything. They still leave it up to “somebody”/nobody to decide what documents are needed and what definition of “natural born citizen” to use, which defies the whole checks and balances system.

We have to have laws which say exactly what documents have to be submitted. We have to have laws which require the documents to be made public and a way for the public to contribute to the accountability so that corrupt bureaucrats CANNOT screw the American public.

Look at what happened in Hawaii. The Hawaii Elections Office, according to Brian Adams, knew all along that Hawaii has no valid birth certificate for Obama. So they knew there was a problem with his eligibility even if the most lax definition of “natural born” was used. They have no SOS so the Elections Office is the only verifying body they have. Even if the HI DOE were required to see all the documents and it could be absolutely proven that they knew Obama had no valid BC, the laws that have been proposed in other states to this point would leave the public with no way to force the DOE to keep Obama off the HI ballot.

There also would be no way to force the courts to rule on the definition of “natural born citizen” and thus no functional definition for an SOS to use even if he/she MEANT to be earnest.

I’ve posted a thread proposing a draft of a bill that could be proposed in the various states, which I believe addresses the legal snags and pitfalls that the Obama coup has revealed. I want to make a few changes, based on input I’ve received, and then I’ll repost it here.

At this point I don’t think we can count on Congress or the federal government AT ALL. But there is no way that Obama’s thugs can threaten the legislators in every state legislature without making their whole scheme of bribes and threats too well-known and greatly increasing the risk of the threatened people spilling the beans on him. If he has to threaten that many people it would be an open, all-out coup.

That’s why we need to - immediately - lean on our state legislatures to HOLD THAT LINE. We’ve made huge gains in the states, and that’s where the battle for America is going to play out.

I’m going to do some revising on what I had posted earlier and get back to you. I especially hope that those who have a different “bent” than mine on the eligibility issue look at what I’ve got and see if they think it addresses the vulnerabilities they feel most keenly right now.

Basically I want the laws that are passed to

1) require a process that eliminates from the ballot anybody whose documentation show them ineligible,

2) enable the people to hold bureaucrats LEGALLY accountable to deal honestly, and

3) to require the courts to decide eligibility issues according to the standards for evidence and law.

I’ll get back to you.


102 posted on 12/31/2010 6:08:46 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Happy New Year Butter!

We are in a heck of a fix, because no one ever dreamt we have to be taking these precautions!

104 posted on 12/31/2010 6:13:47 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive fools in office. It cannot long survive the fools who elect them.)
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To: butterdezillion

4) require a process that eliminates from the ballot anybody who fails to provide the documentation that proves them to be eligible.


181 posted on 01/01/2011 5:24:06 PM PST by Principle Over Politics
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