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Lakin Guilty As Charged - Obama Hides - Truth Eludes Us
Here's The Right Side Of It ^ | December 16, 2010 | John L. Work

Posted on 12/16/2010 7:00:55 AM PST by JLWORK

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To: Regulator

Wow, angry much? Perhaps you could show me where he was innocent of violation of Army regulations and the UCMJ, specifically Article 87, Missing Movement? Sorry if you’re all butt-hurt by the fact that what he did was wrong, but he is, and there’s nothing you or I can do to change that.


62 posted on 12/17/2010 2:29:51 PM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: OCCASparky

Like I said sport...don’t post to me.


63 posted on 12/17/2010 3:19:58 PM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: OCCASparky
Sport now, is it? Amazing. And you wonder why there are those here who consider some among the "birther" crowd as, well, unhinged?
64 posted on 12/17/2010 3:28:31 PM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: jesseam
And I thank you for that. The point being, is whether it is 2003 or 2010, if duty called and you were still in the service, you would still answer the call, regardless of who was POTUS. LTC Larkin forgot that it's bigger than him, and bigger than Obama. It's about a NATION that needs him. He was called, and he didn't answer it based on someone putting him up to it. If you read his statements and saw his reaction today as he was being sentenced, you'd know he realizes what he did was wrong.

But again, sadly, it is too late for him. So much good service wasted by a single bad decision.
65 posted on 12/17/2010 3:31:41 PM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: OCCASparky

As a soldier, I would answer the call of duty and would consider it my responsibility to our country. If called I would go again but because of hostile fire I could not be an effective combatant.


66 posted on 12/17/2010 5:49:54 PM PST by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: jesseam
But the fact you would answer is enough in my book.

My real ire is not with LTC Lakin--it's with those who put him up to this, who trashed a good man's career, who risked nothing in the process.
67 posted on 12/17/2010 5:57:30 PM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: JLWORK

If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.


68 posted on 12/17/2010 5:57:40 PM PST by verity
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To: verity

Here is an interesting press release from Neal Puckett, Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin’s civilian attorney:
LTC Lakin was found guilty and sentenced today at Fort Meade by a jury of senior officers. They sentenced him to total forfeitures of pay, six-months confinement and a dismissal from the Army. The maximum jail time LTC Lakin faced was 36 months. He was transported to jail after a brief time to say goodbye to his parents and two brothers.

In a surprise move, his defense attorney, Neal Puckett, placed him on the stand and rifled him with hard questions about why he disobeyed his orders to deploy. Acting more like Lakin’s commander than his attorney, Puckett led him through his decision process which relied on advice and encouragement from supporters who seemed more interested in challenging the President’s authority than helping Lakin make better decisions as an Army officer.

Puckett raised his voice and proceeded to point out through questions and answers from Lakin how he had let down his family, the Army, his Soldiers, and those who need his medical services on the battlefield. This defense tactic totally surprised the client, but enabled the jury to see the depth and agony of the moral issues that led Lakin to make those choices.

In closing argument, Puckett asked the jury make Lakin repay his debt to the Army for the disruption he has caused by retaining him in the Army so that he could attend to the hard work of providing medical response to our military members who are daily being wounded in Afghanistan. His brigade commander had earlier testified that as a certified flight surgeon, family practice and occupational health care provider, his triple certification was extremely rare and a valuable resource to the Army.

In the end, this tactic of showing Lakin’s personal agony in his decision making and how remorseful he was at failing to deploy and serve the wounded on the battlefield saved Lakin 30 months of confinement. Mr. Puckett was retained to lead the defense team very late in the case. These past three days in trial were a last ditch effort to minimize Lakin’s punishment after he misinterpreted his previous attorney’s advice as encouragement to twice fail to report to his brigade commander. Those two failures to obey orders added two additional charges to his charge sheet.


69 posted on 12/18/2010 11:14:52 AM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Thank you.


70 posted on 12/18/2010 2:29:02 PM PST by verity
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Bump


71 posted on 12/18/2010 2:32:35 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mr Rogers
Under the de facto officer doctrine, upheld by the Supreme Court, someone acting in an office of the government who is later found to be ineligible still has legal authority until found to be ineligible.

The de facto officer doesn't insulate a de facto officer from being challenged on the basis of his eligibility of office and the orders made by that person. It only protects acts that were already executed.

72 posted on 12/18/2010 2:57:01 PM PST by edge919
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To: OCCASparky
Because they weren't legally obligated to do so? Case in point--a person goes on trial and as part of their defense, asks me for my credit records. They're not germane to the charges. I don't have to provide them, and will not do so unless legally compelled to do so as part of a subpoena.

You would let a person got to prison over your birth certificate and possibly a few other very common documents? You would do that?....And,...All that would be needed on your part to prevent this imprisonment is to nod your head to your secretary? Uh?....( Unbelievable!)

There is only **one** possible reason that Obama did not do that. HE IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN! He is a criminal fraud!

The question of Obama's eligibility will **NOT** be won or lost in a court of law. It **WILL** be won or lost in the court of public opinion. Even the liberal/Marxist comedians are roasting Obama over his birth certificate. Obama is FLUSHED! Big time!

Americans are NOT stupid!

A **real** American president would be **HONORED** to prove to his troops that he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be Commander in Chief.

Obama, and how he has hidden his eligibility ( and now DADT), can only be very demoralizing to our military men and women.

73 posted on 12/18/2010 3:21:21 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: wintertime
I have absolutely no one in my life ( friend, relative, neighbor) who would let a person go to prison over their birth certificate and possibly a few other very common documents? If these documents would keep someone out of prison, they would immediately release them.

Would **any** Freeper deny a soldier these documents if meant possible prison? I don't think so.

There is only **one** possible reason that Obama did not release his documents when very politely asked by a decorated officer of 17 years. OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN! Obama is a criminal fraud!

The question of Obama’s eligibility will **NOT** be won or lost in a court of law. It **WILL** be won or lost in the court of public opinion. Even the liberal/Marxist comedians are roasting Obama over his birth certificate. Obama is FLUSHED! Big time!

Americans are NOT stupid!

A **real**, natural born, American president would be **HONORED** **HONORED****HONORED****HONORED****HONORED**to promptly prove to his troops ( with the best evidence) that he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be Commander in Chief.

Obama, and how he has hidden his eligibility , can only be very demoralizing to our military men and women.

74 posted on 12/18/2010 4:06:21 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: kitkat
Or perhaps the replacement flight surgeon did not have the courage of Lakin to stand up and risk his freedom to rid us of a Resident who refuses to tell us who he is. Or maybe the flight surgeon who took Lakin’s place is a liberal.

During the court martial, the doctor who was ordered to take Lakin's place on short noticed - the doctor you believe should have refused to go too - related how two days after the unit reached their forward operating base they came under Taliban attack that left 16 casualties. If there had been no doctor with them, as you would like to have happened, how many of them would have died? And how would that have made you feel?

75 posted on 12/18/2010 4:15:27 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
During the court martial, the doctor who was ordered to take Lakin's place on short noticed - the doctor you believe should have refused to go too - related how two days after the unit reached their forward operating base they came under Taliban attack that left 16 casualties. If there had been no doctor with them, as you would like to have happened, how many of them would have died? And how would that have made you feel?

Obama had plenty of opportunity to respond to Lakin's requests. A real leader would have stepped up to the plate and answered the questions ... or done the right, in Obama's case, and resign. This is on him, not Lakin.

76 posted on 12/18/2010 8:57:17 PM PST by edge919
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To: wintertime

Again, he’s going to jail and being dismissed from the service because of HIS actions, not someone else’s.


77 posted on 12/18/2010 9:12:18 PM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: OCCASparky
This isn't about Larkin.

The liberal/marxist comedians are not laughing at Obama because of Larking. They are laughing at Obama because of Obama.

78 posted on 12/18/2010 9:47:55 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: OCCASparky
The liberal/Marxist comedians are laughing at Obama and his natural born status. Obama is being laughed at entirely because of **HIS** actions, no one else’s.

Drip drip drip. Obama is FLUSHED!

79 posted on 12/18/2010 10:21:50 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: edge919
Obama had plenty of opportunity to respond to Lakin's requests. A real leader would have stepped up to the plate and answered the questions ... or done the right, in Obama's case, and resign. This is on him, not Lakin.

Lakin had the duty to obey the lawful orders of his superior officers and to report for duty to a unit headed for Afghanistan. He did not. It was his decision, his responsibility, and he has nobody to blame but himself for the fact that he's waking up in Leavenworth, Kansas this morning.

80 posted on 12/19/2010 4:16:44 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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