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Now that a judge has found part of the law unconstitutional Obama will have his thugs out in force spewing his propaganda.
1 posted on 12/14/2010 1:22:37 PM PST by jazusamo
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my sister doesn’t have a car. Does she still have to buy car insurance?


2 posted on 12/14/2010 1:24:44 PM PST by cowtowney
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Obama Admin: ObamaCare is Just Like Car Insurance (Wrong!)

Yeah, Both are Unconstitutional.

No Government should be allowed to mandate that we buy a specific item. Insurance is an item.
3 posted on 12/14/2010 1:26:41 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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The thing that pisses me off: they can't be dumb enough to believe this...but they believe most Americans are that dumb.

1. We also have to have a license, for the ‘privilege’ to use the public ROW. They have equated this privilege with having a pulse.

2. Individuals can choose to not drive - thus there is no requirement to purchase auto insurance. We cannot choose not to live (or should be be forced into that choice, since we are guaranteed life, liberty....).

3. If they want to go down that road, and use the commerce clause...since health insurance is currently regulated by states, and not purchased across state lines, it doesn't even apply.

5 posted on 12/14/2010 1:28:44 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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Sebelius: "Imagine what would happen if everyone waited to buy car insurance until after they got in an accident. "

She can see this as justification for the individual mandate, but she CAN'T (WON'T) see that it utterly destroys the argument for covering pre-existing conditions.

6 posted on 12/14/2010 1:29:25 PM PST by Carlucci (Don't care what religion my president is, as long as he worships -- THE CONSTITUTION!)
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I love the Car insurance comparison. Please let them keep using that as an argument. What a joke this administration is!!


9 posted on 12/14/2010 1:32:42 PM PST by nagdt ("None of my EX's live in Texas")
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Timely article.

Someone at work tried this argument on me yesterday. I quickly dismissed his point by citing the fact (unlike health insurance) that almost all roads are government owned and thus the government can stipulate what insurance is needed to use them.

However, I didn’t have the other points. While I was successful in winning the point, he was a soft target.

Freepers - you’re going to get this argument a lot. Read the article and be prepared.


11 posted on 12/14/2010 1:36:23 PM PST by kidd
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13 posted on 12/14/2010 1:39:23 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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The fact is you don’t even need a license, let alone insurance, if you do all your driving on your own property.


15 posted on 12/14/2010 1:39:46 PM PST by GSWarrior
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Car insurance is mandated at the STATE level, for the privilege of driving on public roads.
16 posted on 12/14/2010 1:41:01 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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I’d rather have the gecko in charge of my hearthcare than Barack Obama...or Michelle in charge of my diet!


19 posted on 12/14/2010 1:43:32 PM PST by lonestar
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Okay, even when disregarding the obvious difference between privilege and the unconditional right to benefits of citizenship, if the asshole aide has any idea about comparing health insurance with ‘car’ insurance, then he/she/it should know (because he/she/it is an all knowing damned Democrat) that the only time the Federal Government has a sayso about car insurance is when someone tries to drive on Federal installations... So in MY book the only one who HAS to purchase the damned insurance is Obama and Biden, who live on Federal property....


20 posted on 12/14/2010 1:43:38 PM PST by Gaffer
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Nobody is buying their spin anymore. No matter what they say, the poll numbers stay increasingly high against them. Good luck selling this one Gibbs.


22 posted on 12/14/2010 1:46:34 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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In March, New Hampshire preschool teacher Gail O’Brien, who was unable to obtain health insurance through her employer ...

I love when they drag out people like this. Since we're paying this woman's bills, I'd like to know exactly why this person could not get group insurance through her employer. Most larger companies (this woman works for a school district) offer some form of group health insurance, and existing HIPAA rules allow for exemptions to preexisting condition limitations if a person changes insurance or jobs.

The only way, presumably, that this person could be excluded as a result of preexisting conditions is if she just got her job and had no insurance prior, or she chose not to pay for a group policy and was unable to obtain coverage when she got sick.

23 posted on 12/14/2010 1:46:56 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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I’ll say it’s wrong. An auto-body shop, for example, is under no obligation to fix your car if you don’t have insurance. No health insurance? No problem. The ER has to treat you.


24 posted on 12/14/2010 1:49:27 PM PST by Wolfie
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In March, New Hampshire preschool teacher Gail O’Brien, who was unable to obtain health insurance through her employer, was diagnosed with an aggressive form of lymphoma. Her subsequent applications for health insurance were rejected because of her condition. With each round of chemotherapy costing $16,000, she delayed treatment because she knew her savings wouldn’t last.

Then President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act. Thanks to this law, O’Brien is getting treatment through a temporary program that provides affordable coverage to people who’ve been shut out of the insurance market because of a preexisting condition. Even better, she knows that in 2014 insurers will be banned from discriminating against her or any American with preexisting conditions.


i hope ms o’brien gets well but what stopped her from going on the outside and purchasing an individual health policy??? why does she have to obtain it through her employer??


25 posted on 12/14/2010 1:52:52 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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Yeah sure... and dropping an Alka Seltzer into a bowl of pee makes it a bottle of Dom.

LLS

26 posted on 12/14/2010 1:55:03 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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The White House if full of morons.

“For example, in most states, drivers are required to carry a minimum level of auto insurance.”

In ALL states no one is FORCED to drive.

We are all forced to breathe. We are all forced to live, otherwise we are dead and don’t have need of any health-care. It is up to ME whether I want insurance or not. It is up to ME to decide under what conditions I will or won’t carry it. Not Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid or that cretin soiling the White House.

I have NEVER seen such an insane lack of logic from any administration.


28 posted on 12/14/2010 2:03:16 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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Actually obamacare is more like forcing you to buy a car AND car insurance.

The fact is that if you don’t own a car and/or don’t drive on public roads you don’t have to buy car insurance. You can easily opt out of the car insurance requirement by not owning a car and you won’t be penalized by the state for it. However, if you don’t want to buy health insurance under obamacare you DO get penalized.

It’s a terrible argument!


31 posted on 12/14/2010 2:18:42 PM PST by Castigar
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The auto insurance and health insurance markets are simply not analogous. No amount of sophistry will make it so.

Which will make this such an interesting argument when it gets to the Supremes.

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32 posted on 12/14/2010 2:36:32 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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When a car is "totaled", it's considered too old and/or expensive to repair, and it goes to the scrap yard.

So the only true analogy between Obamacare and car insurance is... (you already guessed it)...

A Death Panel!

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33 posted on 12/14/2010 2:41:21 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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