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To: edge919

My Hawaii DOH COLBs are similar to the second image posted above at comment #6 by UCANSEE2. This shows the backside of the document and the imprint is placed above the date. You can read DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH across the top and STATE OF HAWAII across the bottom.

AND this one with the name Michelle closely resembles mine.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2606951/posts?page=1848#1848

Keep in mind that this is the front of the document but the seal was imprinted to the backside. The image of the seal is therefore reversed.

As is noticeable in these documents, the image and the letters on mine are comprised of tiny indented horizontal bars or dashes and are not lines as it appears on the “black and white drawing”. Truthfully, the actual shape and positioning of the “indented horizontal bars” on my documents most closely resemble those pictured in the OBAMA COLB (the third image at post #6). The letters are wide, not narrow. The words “DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH” fill more than half of the circle. There are no definite images of stars, only what appears to be a single horizontal bar, possibly representing each star. Referring to the numbers on a clock, the single bars are located at 8:00 and 4:00. “STATE OF HAWAII” appears across the lower quadrant. You can feel the bumpy indentations on the front of the document but not on the back. If MissTickly actually had a certified COLB she would know this.

The black and white drawing clearly shows distinct letter formations. Most apparent is the shorter space of the words “DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH” and the star images are at 9:00 and 3:00. The positioning and size of the letters and stars just don’t coincide with the other images.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2637595/posts?page=9#9

I am in no way attempting to verify the example COLBs or defend the Obana COLB. I am merely using them to describe my own documents. I have always suspected that the Obama COLBs are forgeries but this “black and white drawing” in no way proves that Obama’s seal is a fake. I believe that MissTickly and I both share the heartfelt desire to prove that Obama is a fraud. I just strongly feel that it is an irrational assumption to vehemently claim that all Hawaii COLBs posted on the internet are fakes based on that drawing. It is self righteous to disparage those people who posted them by insinuating they are ALL liars and deceivers.

In my opinion, the most glaring evidence that something is fishy with the Obama COLBs can be seen without the benefit of forensic evidence. It has to do with the horizontal folds in the paper, are lack thereof. My documents have creases from folding the document and receipt in a precise manner before being placed in the mailing envelope.

Obama’s COLB was first posted at his website. Notice that there are no folds in the document. http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

But they mysteriously appear later in the factcheck.org COLB
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Obviously, these photos are not of the same document. One or both COLBs are fakes. Why would Obama provide a fake COLB if he had a real one? The Hawaii DOH has never stated that the fightthesmears or factcheck COLBs were issued by their department. Is it because they didn’t issue them? Probably. But now that Obama’s crony is the governor and he appoints his people to be in charge at the DOH, who knows what kind of shenanigans will take place.


49 posted on 12/10/2010 7:40:31 PM PST by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: Jonah Vark

I think we have to go by the best available evidence, which isn’t much. The administrative rules ... posted at the DOH site ... are very compelling. A bunch of anonymous COLBs are not. I know there’s one anomaly that only appeared on the Obama COLB, which I mentioned at one of the sites where Polarik used to post, and then magically new COLBs appeared shortly thereafter with the same anomaly I pointed out. The common denominator for these newer COLBs was Polarik. It was a little too convenient. I can’t conclusively say these newer COLBs aren’t genuine, but there’s no way of proving they ARE genuine.

As for Polarik, I always felt like he was too entrenched in trying to be the one and only guy to prove Obama’s COLB was forged. Either that, or he was trying to create a cover for being on the opposite side of what he claimed. Either way, he’s made himself an unreliable source.

I agree the factlack dot org COLB does not match the original scans from Tommy Vietor. The folds aren’t the clincher, but the paper itself and a mismatching date stamp. Moreover, the EXIF data, which was scrubbed, points to guilty consciences at factlack, not to mentions problems with their story and integrity.


50 posted on 12/10/2010 10:21:02 PM PST by edge919
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