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Is Wikileaks Real Target Hillary Clinton?
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-01-10 | Curt

Posted on 12/01/2010 10:24:39 AM PST by Starman417

Is Wikileaks an operation to get rid of Hillary Clinton prior to 2012? There are a few writers who think so.

Don Surber wrote about the Time interview of Julian Assange where he says Hillary should resign and concludes:

The Wikileaks scandal is not that it was leaked but it is a blatant attempt to eliminate Hillary Clinton as a threat to Barack Obama’s re-election.
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This is a political assassination that deserves inquiry by the Republican House come January. Forget getting Julian Assange on publishing the leaks. Find out who leaked.

We know why.

And some in the liberal left are pushing the meme. Here is Jack Shafer of Slate:

The leaked cables make it impossible for Hillary Clinton to continue as secretary of state.

A U.S. diplomat must possess patience, poise, and tact. He must also be attentive to cultural differences, a good observer, and proficient in several languages. When called upon, he must use his skills as a negotiator in the national interest. And, as the latest dump of WikiLeaks tells us, if the dip works for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, he must also be prepared to spy on his fellow diplomats.

Yeah, our diplos used to have to convince people they don't secretly work for the CIA; now they have to convince people they don't secretly work for Hillary Clinton. Our guys and gals are good, but are they that good?

David Corn:

Should Hillary Clinton resign as secretary of state due to the WikiLeaks revelations? My friend Jack Shafer at Slate makes a good case. His reason: Clinton, like predecessor Condoleezza Rice, signed orders instructing U.S. foreign service officers to spy on the diplomats of other nations.
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...Of the many WikiLeaks revelations that have emerged in the past few days -- and more are to come in the next few months, as the renegade website continues to release batches of the 251,287 State Department cables it has obtained -- the news that U.S. diplomats have been turned into part-time spies certainly warrants thorough investigation.

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...Yet there have not been such passionate calls for investigating the transformation of U.S. diplomats into undercover snoops. The administration's strategy -- as is to be expected -- is to focus on the easy-to-demonize messenger, not the hard-to-explain message. But Diplomatgate ought to be a top priority for the oversight committees of Congress.

I'm betting we will see more of this coming up in the months ahead from the Obama faithful in an attempt to drive her out of office and ruin her chances of running against Obama in 2012 or a run in 2016.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: clinton; hillary; obama; wikileak; wikileaksdocdump
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1 posted on 12/01/2010 10:24:41 AM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

America is the target. America is tarnish yet again by “The One” who refuses to say a positive word about America on foreign soil.


2 posted on 12/01/2010 10:26:14 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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Yes it is. It takes out Obama’s first threat to a second term, the only credible in-party opponent. This could be used by Obama to discredit Clinton and prevent a primary challenge. And that is goal number one for him...because a Democrat primary challenge greatly increases the chances of a Republican President being elected.

Obama is yelping “don’t throw me into the briar patch!”


3 posted on 12/01/2010 10:27:38 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Yup. It is so obvious but the news media and ALL of TV are so evil. They cover for him. This is totally calculated to destroy ANY opponents.


4 posted on 12/01/2010 10:30:26 AM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: a fool in paradise

Well, and what better to tarnish America long-term than to keep an incompetent moron in the Presidency. Damaging Hillary helps to do that because if she is tainted, she won’t be able to launch a primary challenge.


5 posted on 12/01/2010 10:32:25 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Starman417

Last night Rusty Humphries played a clip of John Bolton saying yesterday that he’s read cables his entire career and this cable doesn’t read like a State Dept cable.
He said it read like it came from one of the intelligence agencies.
He highly doubted that Hillary had anything to do with this .


6 posted on 12/01/2010 10:33:29 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: a fool in paradise
“America is the target.”

Exactly. The purpose is to weaken and destroy America. All the politicians, like Hillary Clinton, are just collateral damage. Obama, wikileaks and the Democrats have one goal: to destroy our great country.

7 posted on 12/01/2010 10:35:36 AM PST by detective
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If this was Obama’s plan then it was a massive blunder. She can now resign to announce that she is exploring a run for the Presidency. Zing. He’s in the hot seat now worse than ever.


8 posted on 12/01/2010 10:36:02 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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To: Frantzie

I agree. From what I’ve read, the intent is to blame the State Dept. - and Hillary - for the hacked documents and tie her to as many of the comments as possible in order to blame any foreign policy ‘failures’ (that would be ALL of the attempts at foreign policy for those not keeping score) on her and not obama. Got to destroy her before she decides to run.

My guess is the next dump that will focus on a major bank in the US will somehow be tied to Republicans in order to derail any chance they have of unseating the big o.


9 posted on 12/01/2010 10:36:29 AM PST by RonInNaples
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To: Starman417
Clinton, like predecessor Condoleezza Rice, signed orders instructing U.S. foreign service officers to spy on the diplomats of other nations.

Look for this accusation to ramp up in the days to come as the libs go to their favorite - "Well, someone else did it too!!!" defense.

Apparently the NYT said both authorized an effort for information collection, but there's a world of difference between titles, reporting structure, phone and e mail addresses and trying to figure out where someone travels, if they're on medication, or any other scandalous materials you can use to blackmail a person.

10 posted on 12/01/2010 10:36:29 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Well, and what better to tarnish America long-term than to keep an incompetent moron in the Presidency. Damaging Hillary helps to do that because if she is tainted, she won’t be able to launch a primary challenge.

Agree...


11 posted on 12/01/2010 10:37:18 AM PST by Irenic
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To: Starman417

I would never have even thought of this, thanks for posting this.


12 posted on 12/01/2010 10:44:43 AM PST by Beowulf9
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Where’s the picture of the Obama bus? Sure is getting crowded under there!


13 posted on 12/01/2010 10:44:57 AM PST by blondee123 (IMPEACH THEM ALL! FREEDOMS SLIPPING AWAY DAILY!)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

I agree that it hurts Hillary, and Bush’s “legacy”. But it also sours foreign attitudes of American competence with privileged information and reluctance to even go “off the record” with some positions on foreign policy, especially with regards to middle east relations on things like bombing Iran.


14 posted on 12/01/2010 10:47:15 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Starman417

The old basic logic questions come into play:

What would motivate someone to do this?

Who is harmed?

Who has the most to be gained by that person’s pain?

Who should have been hurt by this, but was not?

Look at who was hurt, and who wasn’t, and determine what the relationship is.

Makes it pretty clear, doesn’t it?


15 posted on 12/01/2010 10:47:19 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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To: Starman417
Applying some of the “logic” on recent display in various FR posts - I will argue that these leaks were actually arranged by Bill Clinton in order to gain new sympathy for Hillary
16 posted on 12/01/2010 10:48:36 AM PST by VRWCTexan (Those who forget history, are doomed to repeat it !)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

This shows the extent BO will go to as well.


17 posted on 12/01/2010 10:48:55 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Starman417
My bad. The only FBI file I did NOT get was Julian Assange's.


18 posted on 12/01/2010 10:49:07 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Starman417

I personally believe that GEORGE SORO’S is behind Wiki leaks and that he is the puppet master of Assange and of course Obummer.

Yes I would think that Obummer is trying to destroy Hillary.


19 posted on 12/01/2010 10:50:43 AM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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I didn’t really see that much in what was reported that was spying. Gathering information off of a business card? That hardly constitutes spying. Creating personality profiles of certain leaders....also not really spying.


20 posted on 12/01/2010 10:54:39 AM PST by DannyTN
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