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Oklahoma Judge Sides With CAIR and Blocks Sharia ban!
Logan's Warning ^ | November 29Th, 2010 | Christopher Logan

Posted on 11/29/2010 1:41:32 PM PST by Islaminaction

In this disappointing but not surprising update to the elected Sharia ban in Oklahoma Courts, we see that Judge Miles-LaGrange has gone against the will of the people. As she has blocked the certification of the Sharia ban. This is a preliminary injunction, until a final decision is made on the lawsuit. But for now, she just handed Islam a victory.

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: blogpimpimam; islam; jihad; radicalmuslims; sharia
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To: r9etb

Did it ever occur to you the Constitution may not be perfect? Or that granting Islam religion status was a mistake?


41 posted on 11/30/2010 8:17:36 AM PST by Islaminaction
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To: r9etb
Sorry.

Yes, you are. The restriction still only applies to Congress. Article VI Clause 2 requires all judges to recognize this and rule accordingly. That's it. It does not instruct the judges to apply restrictions on Congress laid out in the Constitution to the legislatures of their own states.

I understand you did not explicitly claim that it does, but preseting it in this context seems a clear attempt to create the perception that it does.

42 posted on 11/30/2010 8:17:54 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
If the court can make decisions based on Sharia law, couldn't they decide to base their decisions on Mosaic law just as well, and simply disregard civil law whenever it might suit them?

You're blinded by the "Sharia" aspects of the case. It's a more general issue, though. As it happens, judges are often asked to rule on matters involving the internal "laws" of various religions, with regard to matters regarding property and other matters.

Over the course of 150+ years of rulings on such matters, the courts have adopted a "deference" approach, whereby they'll defer to the internal rules of a religious body rather than make rulings that interfere with the First Amendment.

A classic expression of this principle is given in Watson vs. Jones (1871):

In such cases where the right of property in the civil court is dependent on the question of doctrine, discipline, ecclesiastical law, rule, or custom, or church government, and that has been decided by the highest tribunal within the organization to which it has been carried, the civil court will accept that decision as conclusive, and be governed by it in its application to the case before it.

It's clear that the Oklahoma law would violate that principle.

43 posted on 11/30/2010 8:24:08 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

I am still waiting for you to explain how Christians are going to go around Muslim countries and convert most of the women. How about Somalia? Why don’t you start there, do you even know what would happen to you if you were caught?

Then explain why no one but you has ever thought of this idea before.

Thank you.


44 posted on 11/30/2010 8:27:30 AM PST by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction
Did it ever occur to you the Constitution may not be perfect? Or that granting Islam religion status was a mistake?

Did it ever occur to you that you can use more than your immediate emotional response when formulating a comment?

Grown-ups have learned that it's often helpful to think before typing. Part of that process involves considering the logical consequences of the position you take, and abandoning such positions as turn out to be foolish.

As it happens, the logical consequences of your position with regard to Islam, have already been fully worked out in other places, with regard to other demographic groups. It's been worked out in Germany, for example, between about 1934-45. Or in Rwanda, in the mid-90s.

45 posted on 11/30/2010 8:32:03 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Islaminaction
I am still waiting for you to explain how Christians are going to go around Muslim countries and convert most of the women.

It's already happening.

But you're blind and silly, so I'm really not going to waste any more time on you.

46 posted on 11/30/2010 8:33:09 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

The number of Muslims is on the rise, so what you are saying is just not true.

Now go run away from reality.


47 posted on 11/30/2010 8:35:58 AM PST by Islaminaction
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To: r9etb

Over 8 years of following this issue is not an immediate emotional response, and it is a fact that Muslims are taking over more and more of the world. Your constant childish comments, show you have no real input on this issue. Fact is that Germany is being threaten by Muslim immigration, and most politicians are afraid to take on Islam, because of its religion status.

MY position is being followed by more and more Americans each day. They have the courage to face the reality of Islam. I applaud them.


48 posted on 11/30/2010 8:40:04 AM PST by Islaminaction
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To: r9etb
You're blinded by the "Sharia" aspects of the case.

I am cognizant of the aspects of "Sharia" that have the potential to come into conflict with civil law, and the objectives of Islam to have it be considered authoritative.

49 posted on 11/30/2010 8:40:52 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
I am cognizant of the aspects of "Sharia" that have the potential to come into conflict with civil law, and the objectives of Islam to have it be considered authoritative.

And you clearly are not willing to consider anything beyond the stove-pipe view you're taking on this case.

Have a nice day.

50 posted on 11/30/2010 8:42:24 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
And you clearly are not willing to consider anything beyond the stove-pipe view you're taking on this case.

The Constituion of the State of Minnesota is the business of the citizens of Minnesota. If it is not, then they are not sovereign, and the republic is a sham.

51 posted on 11/30/2010 8:51:12 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: marron

Miles-LaGrange was nominated by President William J. Clinton on September 22, 1994, to a seat on the United States District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma

ENOUGH SAID!!!


52 posted on 11/30/2010 8:54:22 AM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: tacticalogic
The Constituion of the State of Minnesota is the business of the citizens of Minnesota. If it is not, then they are not sovereign, and the republic is a sham.

The US Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2) says otherwise.

But thanks for trying.

53 posted on 11/30/2010 10:17:00 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
The US Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2) says otherwise.

Not to anyone who can read.

54 posted on 11/30/2010 10:49:28 AM PST by tacticalogic
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