View From the Bunker Interview: A Messianic View of the Revelation

View From the Bunker ^ | 11/21/2010 | Derek Gilbert

[Buggman]

Last night, an interview that I did with Derek Gilbert on the View From the Bunker podcast went live. We discuss my book, When the Stars Fall, but also talk a bit about the Messianic Jewish perspective on Yeshua and Scripture in general.

The link.

[Buggman]

For those who might be interested: An interview I did with Derek Gilbert on the View From the Bunker podcast.

Shalom.

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the ping.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Uri’el-2012]

First, Mazol Tov !

Secondly, blessings for your book.

Thirdly, I will contact you by FRmail
for your insights on my pending move to Taos.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[huldah1776]

I think your books will answer my question of why “John sent (two of his disciples) to the Lord, saying, “Are You the Expected One, or do we look for someone else?””

Thank you!

[Buggman]

Short answer: Early Judaism, in trying to reconcile the various prophetic threads about the Messiah, often conceived of two messiahs. In the Talmud and Midrash, we have the Messiah ben Joseph, the suffering servant, preceeding the Messiah ben David, the conquering king. In the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Essenes speak of a priestly messiah in addition to the kingly messiah.

So John's question, coming from a prison cell where he continued to languish long after Yeshua's immersion, was, "Are you the Messiah ben David, even though I am still a prisoner of the Gentiles? Or are you another messiah, a suffering or priestly messiah?"

Shalom

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Buggman.

[MHGinTN]

Listening to the replay now ... but here's a recent effort at addressing the Christian concept of the Trinitarian nature of God.

God manifests Himself in the Work He is Doing The following will be 'a way' to understand the notion of the trinitarian nature of the Deity, not a strictly Biblical explanation, but one which is based upon and applicable to the teaching of the Bible. Here goes:

God The Father Almighty is greater than His creation, thus greater than dimension time and dimension space, or any other dimensions which He created, thus we may think of The Father Almighty as beyond time and space but not prevented from touching and indeed penetrating His creation.

The universe of space and time is likened to a bubble: what is inside the bubble is in time and space. But the nature of what is inside the bubble is only partially understood in modern Physics.

The Bible relates scenes which defy the simplistic notions we use for assumptive science. We'll get to that 'assumptive' notion shortly, but let’s make the statement that God The Father Almighty is as comfortable outside the bubble of His creation as He is inside the bubble.

Modern Physics has discovered that the balance of forces and tensions sustaining the universe necessary for human life to arise within the universe is extremely delicate, on the order of a mathematical improbability, represented as a 'one in less than' fraction so tiny that a one over a one followed by more than one-hundred zeros defines the probability that the whole thing remains in balance! [ We use the expression ‘a one in ten chance’ when describing some probability, or a one out of ten chance. The delicate balance of the universal forces is on the order of one in ‘a one followed by 100 zeros‘! I don‘t even know what such a number is called. ] Such a delicate balancing act is but one of the continuing 'works' of the Holy Spirit of God. It is by the Spirit of God, The Word, that the universe came into existence and it is said in the Bible that by His Spirit the whole is maintained.

But the Bible also states that The Word was with God in the beginning and was God. In John's gospel we find that Jesus is The Word made flesh Who dwelt among us. So, inside the bubble Created by God The Father Almighty, sustained by God The Holy Spirit, is the Word, God made flesh Who dwelt among us. The Creator does not stop being greater than His creation bubble, nor does His Spirit cease to sustain it all in balance, when Jesus comes in the flesh to dwell among us.

Here's an address to 'assumptive science limitations':
Now, when one reads the Torah/Old Testament, one finds scenes like the fifth chapter of Daniel where a being is in one spacetime 'where/when' reaching into another 'where/when' to write on the palace party central wall of Babylonian king Belshazzar. Just the forearm/hand is seen in the where/when of Belshazzar and the party folks, the rest of the being remains in 'another' where/when.

God The Father Almighty created this 'other' where/when, His Holy Spirit maintains its balance and separateness from our where/when, and Jesus has moved in and out of this other where/when: as shown when He resurrected from the tomb without rolling away the stone, just passing out of the tomb where/when, into 'another' where/when; then back into our where/when as He spoke to the women come to the sepulchre; and when He appeared in a locked and shuttered room with the disciples present; or appeared suddenly with the disciples walking on a road and broke bread with them then left our where/when to go to the 'other' where/when.

The trinitarian nature of God is shown in the Bible, even in the Torah. Trinity IS the nature of God as we have been given to know. Even in the Old Testament/Torah, we do have instruction on the Three-nature of God as Creator, Sustainer, and Deliverer. God Is manifested as three yet He is one, seen identified by 'the work He is doing'.

With each manifestation, we are given to realize His presence simultaneously as Creator--because we exist in the realm He created, as Sustainer--because the balance is too delicate to stand alone without His sustaining the separation and interdependence, and as God with us in the person of Jesus our Lord and Savior.<

[MHGinTN]

I wrote that a few weeks ago and realize I should have used ‘Tanakh’ instead of Torah, because I was referring to more than just the Five first books from Moses

[Buggman]

Let me see if I can sum that up: The Son is the part of the eternal, transcendant God who enters into time and space to interact with His people.

Is that what you are aiming at?

Shalom

[MHGinTN]

Yes, basicaiiy. Enjoyed the interview. Will be buying your book.