[patriot08]

As a strong Conservative, I’m trying hard to understand the objections to the pat downs.
With all the dry runs and bombs being found on passengers, why not do a through search?
It seems to me that those who object to the pat downs just should not fly- for the safety of all.
We can’t be too careful.
Am I missing something here?

[dforest]

If you are willing to lose your freedom for what the O admin calls security, you deserve to be groped before entering Walmart.

That is what you are missing.

[FTJM]

"With all the dry runs and bombs being found on passengers Islamic terrorists, why not do a thorough search?" Fixed it.

The choice given to everyone is to submit to a radiological naked body scan or an invasive pat down or a fine for failing to submit. Is there seriously no better option?

[algernonpj]

As a strong Conservative, I’m trying hard to understand the objections to the pat downs. With all the dry runs and bombs being found on passengers, why not do a through search? It seems to me that those who object to the pat downs just should not fly- for the safety of all. We can’t be too careful. Am I missing something here?

What you are missing is that your are willing to sacrifice your 4th amendment rights for the illusion of safety. The TSA is giving you a choice of being irradiated or molested.

This is all street theater to distract you from the fact that our northern and southern borders are wide open, immigration lack the tools to perform timely accurate security checks, and the executive branch has for years been mandating bringing in more jihadis. The bonus is turning up the temp on the frog in the pot while completely humiliating him.

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‘Passenger Behavior’ Key to Catching Airline Terrorists

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[ex 98C MI Dude]

The great objection is the 4th Amendment's stricture against unreasonable search. These searches are being performed in such a manner as to make this nothing but theater. It isn't going to make you any safer, because a few trips through a security checkpoint will show all the weaknesses of this approach. One that jumps right out is the lines this creates. One jihadi with clothes by DuPont can really put a twist on this mess. They could kill more people at the checkpoint than they would on the plane. In the end, you aren't going to stop the terrorist bent on death. He will find a way. So the idea is to get him before he gets anywhere. Hit him early, and hit him hard.

To address the rest of your post, the TSA hasn't found any bombs, and have even missed a large portion of the test bombs sent through by the government to test its own security. It is ineffectual at best, and a real hazard to the normal air traveler because of it.

I won't go through that kabuki dance, therefore I don't fly. And there are ever more coming around to that way of thinking, so air travel will become prohibitively expensive as fewer flyers will pick up more of the cost of flying them. And they still won't be safe from the jihadi. And the safest state is a police state. So exactly how careful do you want to be?

Read the US Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the many writings of those who founded this nation. Then, and only then, will you understand the objection.

[Elsie]

With all the dry runs and bombs being found on passengers, why not do a through search?

Nits cause lice.

[Elsie]

Correction:

Nits make lice.

[Brown Deer]

Am I missing something here?

You betcha!

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